I’m not a tease. Here’s the picture:
It’s a truly remarkable picture - particularly given the way the media attacked Bush for his high gas price increase and then largely refused to attack Obama for his ridiculously insane gas price increase.
Heritage nails it in an article (which is where I got the above chart from):
As Americans continue to feel the effects of President Obama’s anti-oil agenda at the pump, defensive liberals are circling back to a familiar line of counter-attack: blame Bush. The media vacuum on gas prices has made this line of attack all the more promising with very little national coverage being given to the president’s destructive domestic drilling agenda. Unfortunately it misses an obvious point.
President George W. Bush was mostly attacked for wanting to drill too much (or being “cozy” with the oil industry), while President Obama’s policies are rooted in unilaterally shutting down the domestic oil industry amidst rising prices and a struggling economy.
Yes, the price of gasoline reached historic levels, rising above $4/gallon during Bush’s second term, but that wasn’t due to a lack of trying to increase domestic supply. U.S. domestic supply is but one factor in the global price of oil, and thus gas prices. But when a president purposefully chooses to decrease our domestic supply by 13%, with hopes of driving that supply even lower, and objects to U.S.-Canadian pipelines and new forms of exploration, discovery and friendly importation, the price consequences are real, and should be scrutinized.
During the first twenty-six months of President Bush’s first term in office, the price of gasoline increased by 7%. At the end of his second term, the price had decreased by 9% from the time he took office (adjusted for inflation). During the first twenty-six months of Obama’s term in office, the price of gasoline has spiked over 67% with no relief in site.
Clearly, other mitigating factors were at work between those two time periods. U.S. demand is one such factor, as is global supply disruptions, cartel pricing and the cost to refine and distribute, but the current price spikes obligate serious people to scrutinize our nation’s energy policy.
President Bush’s response to $4/gallon gasoline was to lift presidential and congressional moratoriums on expanded drilling in the Outer Continental Shelf, a move that many critics say came too late. But what about Obama?
Some on the right have criticized Obama for having no energy policy. This is wrong. Obama’s energy policy is working exactly the way it is designed. This administration knows that unless the price of fossil fuels skyrocket, expensive alternative energy sources, no matter how heavily subsidized, will continue to be unattractive to American consumers.
Obviously, this risky desire to have high gas prices is a punitive policy that foolishly ignores how Americans use petroleum. While oil is largely a transportation fuel, solar and wind can only contribute to our electricity demands. Oil accounts for less than 1% of our electricity demand.
The liberal fascination with developing expensive vehicles that run on electricity doesn’t change that: 1) Solar or wind powered vehicles don’t commercially exist; 2) The cars that do run on electricity, or even battery-powered hybrids still require gas; and 3) the high cost of the alternatively fueled vehicles makes them largely insignificant in the auto market and cost-prohibitive to the average consumer.
Sure, it would be ideal to have a national fleet of cars that are inexpensive and run on cheap and widely available alternative sources of energy. But the markets have demonstrated this reality is nowhere close to fruition. And when you try to hasten that reality by artificially jacking up the price of gas, the economic effects are felt largely by the poorest among us and disincentives business owners from hiring as their fixed operating costs increase.
Think about it, who feels the pain of an extra $1 at the gas pump? The rich guys that the left demonizes or the middle-to-low income wage earners who balance their budgets by the penny, not the dollar? If the only cars available on the market were $40,000 Chevy Volts, would a Lexus or BMW consumer be hit hard, or would the family looking for a barely affordable mode of shuttling their family be affected? Consumer Reports said Obama’s heralded Volt “is an expensive way to be green.”
This economic, energy and transportation reality—the here and now—is why President Bush called for more domestic oil exploration at the same time he called for an end to our “addiction” to oil. You cannot shut down one job-creating industry while you hope another emerges. Hope is not a smart energy strategy.
This week, the Obama administration began floating the idea that depleting the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) is a viable response to rising oil prices. The SPR is where America stores roughly 700 billion barrels of oil in case of a catastrophe. Its drawdown would have a marginally positive affect on gas prices for a very short time period. Once that supply is partially or completely eliminated, we would be back to square one. In other words, the action would be purely political and designed to politically disguise a terrible energy policy.
President Obama must stop killing energy jobs, hurting American business owners and penalizing taxpayers at the pump in order to score unrelated points with his environmental base. Obama needs to end the EPA practice of imposing regulations on refineries that increase the cost of oil production. He must stop looking to raise taxes on oil producers while heavily subsidizing other energy industries.
And Obama must at least end his de facto moratorium and get America back to the domestic supply capabilities we had just two years ago. As Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA) told Interior Secretary Ken Salazar in a hearing on oil prices this week: “In January 2009 there were 16 permits issued. The next year there were 12 and this January, only two. We’re so far off the historic level. We’ve got to get it back up as quickly as possible.”
This time, in this economy, with these transportation and energy realities is not the time for Obama to curry favor with eco-liberals by raising the cost of living for the average American family. President Bush may have wanted to increase the drilling status quo by too much in your opinion, but surely we can all agree that intentionally decreasing our domestic supply makes little sense today.
Gasoline is over $4 a gallon across the state of California; it is over $5 in Los Angeles; and in some places in Florida it is over $6 a gallon.
On June 24, 2008, Obama said in demonizing Bush:
What Washington has done is what Washington always does – it’s peddled false promises, irresponsible policy, and cheap gimmicks that might get politicians through the next election, but won’t lead America toward the next generation of renewable energy. And now we’re paying the price. Now we’ve fallen behind the rest of the world. Now we’re forced to beg Saudi Arabia for more oil. Now we’re facing gas prices over $4 a gallon – gas prices that are decimating the savings of families who are already struggling in this economy. Like the man I met in Pennsylvania who lost his job and couldn’t even afford the gas to drive around and look for a new one. That’s how badly folks are hurting. That’s how badly Washington has failed.
YOU peddled a whole whopping load of false promises, Obama you liar. You want to tell us about “irresponsible policies” now, Mister Solyndra???
Gas prices could very well hit $6 by summer.
Tags: Bush, gas prices, gasoline, Obama


February 28, 2012 at 5:57 am
This just in: Peggy Joseph has gone into hiding so she wouldn’t have to explain why she still has to put gas in her car.
February 28, 2012 at 12:27 pm
V.E.
That’s funny. And a good point.
But at least she doesn’t have to pay for her mortgage thanks to Obama, right??? I mean, nobody has to pay for their mortgage anymore, do they???
Obama mocked increasing the supply of oil as something that would reduce prices (because he has no clue about the laws of supply and demand or HISTORY given the drop in the price of oil over the Bush announcement that he was ending the federal ban on offshore drilling). Obama said of the GOP energy plan, “It’s a bumper sticker. It’s not a strategy to solve our energy challenge. It’s a strategy to get politicians through an election.”
You want to hear the ultimate bumper sticker? “Hope and change.” The entire Obama platform is one giant empty bumper sticker.
February 29, 2012 at 12:40 pm
You are clearly someone who has no idea how wall street works, or for that matter, looks up FACTS. Speculators anyone? You do realize we are EXPORTING more gas than are importing now, don’t you? And to say Obama isn’t drilling enough, or doing all he can, is just ridiculous if you look at the FACTS. Here’s the problem with your argument: Under President Obama, domestic oil production is up 11%. And, according to the U.S. Energy Information Association, the number of oil rigs pumping oil in the U.S. in December of 2011 was 1,173. In January 2009 when President Obama TOOK OFFICE, it was 328. In other words, the number of domestic oil wells has increased by an astonishing 358% under President Obama. Under President George W. Bush, that number increased only 64%.
February 29, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Anyone who hates President Obama does it not based on fact. Here is the difference between normal people and republicans. I didn’t start to despise bush until he made decisions worth despising, and which I could FACT check. Republicans, on the other hand, have hated President Obama since day one, even saying that their main goal should be to make sure Obama is a one term president. Really? Not the economy? Or healthcare or jobs? Just to destroy Obama? Great elected leaders huh. They really care about America. To me, they are a form of domestic terrorists, lying and scaring the dimwitted Americans that all too easily follow like mindless sheep I understand a “typical” republicans stance: “It’s everyone out for themselves and if people can’t pay for their own healthcare, or retirement, or medicare, etc., then it’s not my responsibility to pay for ‘em, so [DELETED BY MODERATOR BECAUSE POSTER COULDN'T CONTROL HIS FILTHY MIND FOR EVEN TWO MINUTES] em.” I get that stance. I find it repulsive that people can be so heartless and cold, especially to our own citizens. But obviously most Americans only worship the dollar. Oh, and our debt is nothing like Greece’s btw. NOTHING. You have to understand economics and READ facts, not by biased political writers, but by economists who have no interest in sides…just facts. Forget that you hate President Obama, just for a day, and READ some facts for Christ’s sake. The truth is what we should all be seeking. Not a version of what we want the truth to be. And if ya can’t handle the truth kill yourself and make this country a better place
February 29, 2012 at 8:36 pm
Your “stunning picture” is missing 6 years – from 2003 to 2009! What happened then? You said it in your article! “The price of gasoline reached historic levels, rising above $4/gallon during Bush’s second term.” 1 – Learn how to properly chart something. 2 – Learn how to count.
If you are going to blame the President for something at least don’t be an idiot and make us all look stupid.
February 29, 2012 at 8:58 pm
Jaron,
I’m sure I’m talking to Warren Buffet who is just calling himself “jaron resnik” to remain anonymous.
Ether that or I’m sure I’m talking to a guy who knows the words “Wall Street” and “speculators” and decided that makes you an “expert.”
Hey, dumbass, how about a DUMBASS alert: guess what? THERE WERE SPECULATORS IN 2006 AND 2008 WHEN YOU DAMN LIBERALS WERE DEMONIZING BUSH FOR OIL PRICES!!!
So I spend considerable time offering supporting links to document that the media and you cockroach liberals demonized Bush for high gas prices, and you offer the same excuse that you should have considered when Bush was president but refused to do??? How about you get lost???
How DARE you offer the same excuse you refused to listen to less than four years ago.
Furthermore, “speculators” – Mr. “Expert on Wall Street” – are mostly entities such as air lines that will need fuel regardless of whether the price goes up or down. They aren’t deliberately fiddling with the market; they are merely trying to obtain a commodity that they will need regardless at the best price they can obtain it for. And they rightly believe that the price will go up – so they are buying it now. And being that oil is a commodity, and being that Obama has refused to increase production, it is a SCARCE commodity. And so buying it now is making the price go up because of something called “the law of supply and demand.”
And the actual “speculators” are likewise making a BET that Obama isn’t done ruining our energy industry or our economy.
You mention that we are exporting more gas than we are importing. Allow me to explain why: because you should be thanking George W. Bush:
George Bush increased oil companies access to drilling, which resulted in more production a few years after his wise actions. Meanwhile, fool Obama has shut down drilling in a frankly amazingly foolish way and we won’t have that same production in a couple of years. Obama isn’t ONE BIT responsible for the increase in production; George W. Bush is.
Under Obama, oil production is actually dramatically down in all of the federal lands that Obama has sway over.
Here is the more of the facts on that:
Further, oil is a COMMODITY. It is fungible, meaning that it really doesn’t matter where it is sold, it only matters how much of it is available to the global market. If China is willing to pay more, the price for oil everywhere on the planet goes up unless production increases to satisfy that increased demand. Which is to say that it doesn’t matter at ALL whether oil is being imported or exported as far as the price is concerned.
As an example, we don’t get ANY oil from Iran, and very little oil through the Strait of Hormuz. Europe and Asia get most of that oil. But if the Strait of Hormuz is blocked off, or if Iran halts production, the price of oil – which again is a COMMODITY – increases all over the world. Because, you dumbass, oil doesn’t sell for one price in one place and another price in another place. Oil closed today at $108.56 a barrel all over the planet whether it is exported or imported.
For the record, I documented in this article what George Bush finally did to send the price of a gallon of gas plummeting: he ended the moratorium on offshore drilling which increased access to drilling. And because there was even a MERE POTENTIAL INCREASE in supply, prices began to drop.
And Obama could do that with the stroke of a pen if he wanted to.
February 29, 2012 at 9:02 pm
I’m sorry, Mr. Really??
I made the mistake of assuming you knew how to read rather than just look at pictures.
If you’d been able to read, you would have seen that the picture recorded each president’s first 26 months of office to compare apples to apples. Maybe you’d better have your mommy explain it to you or something.
The price of gasoline reached a higher point in Bush’s 8th year of office – which fair people can’t compare to Obama (and we’ll see how high it gets if he GETS that 8th year). But the price for gasoline over the entire course of a year was higher in 2011 than it EVER was under ANY year of Bush. Just as we just had THE most expensive January and then THE most expensive February in the history of the nation under Obama.
Further, when the price of gasoline increased to over $4 a gallon under Bush – since you mention that – Bush did one simple thing that brought the prices on a downward trajectory that you idiot liberals will never do: he ended the ban on offshore drilling. The prices IMMEDIATELY went down when he did that.
I can’t make you look stupid, Really. I can only watch you make yourself look stupid.
February 29, 2012 at 9:22 pm
Which facts or which truth do you want me to look at first, Jaron?
How about if I look at the fact that Gallup just told us that the real unemployment rate is actually over 19 percent under Obama’s economic policy? Is that a fact worthy of notice?
How about if I look at the fact that Obama demonized Bush for $4 trillion in debt over eight years when he has now basically increased the damn debt by $6 trillion in only three years? Should I find that fact noteworthy?
How about if I look at the fact that gas prices were higher over the course of the year 2011 than they ever were in the entire history of the country under Obama’s energy policy? How about if I look at the fact that gas prices have DOUBLED under Obama during his first three years? Are those facts worthy of notice?
Since you mentioned Obama’s disastrous ObamaCare -
- should I find the fact that it is an unconstitutional socialist takeover worthy of notice???
And since you mentioned Greece, should I find the fact that our per capital debt is actually FAR WORSE than Greece’s thanks to Obama relevant?
How about if I look at the fact that Obama has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to resolve the housing bubble that caused our 2008 collapse? Is that a fact worthy of considering?
How about if I look at the fact that both Afghanistan and Iraq are both going to the crapper under Obama’s foreign policy? Not to mention Syria and Libya and Egypt and damn near everywhere else? Are those facts worthy of notice?
I suppose it is only “mindless sheep” who notice such things.
February 29, 2012 at 9:52 pm
That is not comparing apples to apples. That is choosing what data supports your argument and omitting the rest. Gas rose from $1.40 in 2002 to $4.14 in 2008. That’s higher than it is today.
I’m not pro-Obama or anti-Bush. I support a lot of the research here but I’m simply saying there are enough actual things to criticize that we don’t need to make up stories from incomplete data.
In regards to Bush magically dropping the price of gas I’m not positive but I think drilling has increased dramatically over the last couple years? Sure the gas prices went down but a lot of major financial disasters were happening at the same time and it’s hard to say what happened.
In any event I’m pretty sure Obama does not sit in the Oval Office and laugh at how high much gas costs and how easy it would be to solve the problem. Or maybe secretly he is jacking the prices up and three months before election time he will bring them down and act like he saved the day.
I hope there isn’t more explaining required – I can’t afford the gas to go visit mommy.
February 29, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Really??
You idiot dumbass, unless you have a time machine and went to 2016 and can offer proof of what gas prices are in the eighth year of the failed Obama regime, it is apples to oranges to talk about Bush’s gas prices between 2001 and 2008 and then compare that to only three years of Obama.
But you don’t stop at stupid: you put the petal on the metal on hypocrite, as well.
You say:
But YOU DO THE VERY THING YOU SAY YOU CAN’T STAND. Because you talk about Bush’s highest gas price and conveniently omit that the price of gas went down to $1.842 on the last day of Bush’s presidency. While deceitfully claiming you’re not “anti-Bush.”
Which is to say that the price of gas under Bush actually went from $1.40 to $1.84 – which is pretty damned AWESOME compared to Obama’s DOUBLING the price of gas.
Further, oil production is up for one reason and one reason only: Bush policies. Bush increased oil production and the oil is now flowing from those policies. Versus Obama who has imposed a ban in every federal area that he could.
You’re done here, you hypocrite fool. Go annoy somebody else with your “arrogant moron” schtick. I’ve got better things to do than waste time on you.
February 29, 2012 at 11:27 pm
It wouldn’t matter if gas was free the last day. That administration set the record high in gas prices in the history of this country – a record that has yet to be broken. How can you argue Obama DOUBLED the prices?
I really am done here. Thanks for proving my point.
March 1, 2012 at 8:32 pm
Really??
I’m letting you back just to document what a genuine idiot and hater of facts you truly are.
The day Barack Obama took office, the average national price of gasoline was $1.84 a gallon. That is a FACT.
As of today, March 1, 2012, the average national price of gasoline is $3.74 a gallon.
That is a 103.26% increase in the price of gasoline since the day Obama took office. Which is to say that Obama has MORE than doubled the price of gas as of today.
So how can I argue Obama DOUBLED the prices? I can argue it by producing something that you utterly despise, you vile little cockroach: I can argue it by producing the FACTS.
But that’s not all: it is now being widely reported that gasoline will hit $4.50 or even $5 a gallon by Memorial Day. Which will blow the Bush “record” you have regurgitated to smithereens. So to the degree that you have even the most minimal capacity for integrity – which you don’t – your “That administration set the record high in gas prices in the history of this country” will belong to Obama and you should demonize him the way you demonized Bush.
Furthermore, Bush fought Democrats bitterly over a policy that would lower gas prices before he finally simply took the step himself and issued an executive order over the Democrats’ screaming heads to allow offshore drilling in federal lands. That order by Bush dramatically lowered the price of gas right away and proved who was REALLY to blame for high gas prices (Democrats). Gas prices immediately went down from that $4.14 mark you demagogue, and continued to plunge thanks to Bush until they were what they were when Obama took office ($1.84 a gallon).
I can’t do much more to demonstrate that you are a liar, a fool and an ideologue.
So you really are done here now. Get lost.
March 1, 2012 at 11:40 pm
You are such a moron. I cannot waste anymore of my time talking to someone who is lost in an alternate universe. I only hope that you get hit by a truck or die a horrible death. You are an enemy of America scumbag. THATS A FACT.
March 2, 2012 at 6:43 am
Oil production in the United States has hit its highest level in eight years, more rigs are operating in the U.S. than in the rest of the world combined, more than 400 drilling permits have been granted since the massive BP oil spill, and for the first time in 13 years, oil imports account for less than half of all U.S. oil consumption.
http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/intelligent-energy/obama-vs-bush-the-oil-chart-that-will-surprise-you/11859
March 2, 2012 at 12:14 pm
Blogging Traitor,
Under Obama, oil production on federal lands and waters – the only areas that Obama controls – has plunged dramatically. As one example, Bush granted 36% more leases annually than Obama (2879 a year under Bush vs only 1856 for Obama).
The facts are that:
The increased production we are currently seeing is on PRIVATE LANDS. You and Barry Hussein are taking credit for production that your policies have had NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH. On lands and waters under Obama’s control, we are seeing LESS drilling/production than ever.
March 2, 2012 at 2:03 pm
Jaron,
Really? Seriously? That’s your response to the avalanche of reality against your failure-in-chief? That’s your “fact” in response to all my facts???
Recognizing the truth about this country’s deplorable condition under Obama makes me a “traitor”? While mindlessly following the Obama propaganda and saying everything is wonderful makes you a marvelous patriot, I suppose? Particularly when you demonstrate your “patriotism” by displays of outright hate toward enemies of your Führer???
Thank you for giving me a recent example of how filled with hate the left is, btw.
Clearly, I will be blocking you now that you have revealed what a truly rabid little animal you are.
March 3, 2012 at 11:48 am
Obama knocked out “Keystone” which knocked out thousands of jobs. Obama can get the prices down just like Bush did when they went to 4 bucks. He just doesn’t want to. Obama doesn’t like oil and expects “the people” to switch to alternative energy over night. Alternative energy which doesn’t appear to be working so well. These gas prices are on him. Just like the Solyndra $535 million Obama administration screw-up. I find most liberals have never even heard about Solyndra. I wonder why?
March 4, 2012 at 3:01 pm
RBP.
You are completely correct. When gas prices got too high, Bush decided to finally ignore demonic Democrats and issue an executive order over their screaming heads. From the very MOMENT Bush ended the federal moratorium on offshore drilling, gas prices began to PLUNGE all the way down to $1.84 a gallon.
Obama could do that today if he wanted to; he doesn’t want to.
March 5, 2012 at 1:56 am
People should know
March 6, 2012 at 4:06 pm
The real story – gas hit $4.00 under Bush – until he destroyed the economy in 2008: http://gasbuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx
March 7, 2012 at 7:37 am
John Testa,
Man, that is breathtakingly stupid.
On your “analysis” you are left literally telling us that oil prices were high because Bush screwed up the economy, but then Bush screwed up the economy and so oil prices dropped.
Let’s try to explain this with something you clearly don’t believe you need to bother with: ACTUAL FACTS.
During the last two years of the Bush presidency when Nancy Pelosi was in charge of the House and Harry Reid was in charge of the Senate, the price of a gallon of gasoline went from a little over $2 to nearly $5 while Democrats steadfastly refused to allow for any increase in domestic production.
The national average price of gasoline was well over $4 when George Bush realized that something had to be done, that Democrats would never do anything, and he had to act. Bush ended the moratorium on offshore drilling on July 14, 2008.
On July 11, 2008 (the closest figure I could find), the price of crude oil was $145.08 a barrel.
Bush ended the ban.
Democrats shrieked stuff like, “This proposal is something you’d expect from an oil company CEO, not the president of the United States,” said Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., chairwoman of the Senate Environment Committee. “The president is taking special-interest government to a new level and threatening our thriving coastal economy.”
And of course the Democrats were right: the “special interest” of the American people finally got considered:
The price of a barrel of oil IMMEDIATELY dropped by $9.26 AS BUSH WAS SPEAKING.
In the few days that followed, the precipitous upward climb in the price of oil went down, down, DOWN:
You can look at the link that has the NYSE prices to keep watching the trend:
By the election it was $64.04. VERSUS $145 THE DAY BUSH ENDED THE DAMN FEDERAL OIL BAN.
It dropped like a stone and didn’t come back up until the most failed president in the history of this country said under his plan, energy rates would necessarily skyrocket and until he picked an energy secretary who said somehow we have to figure out how to make American gasoline as expensive as it is in Europe.
Bush ending the moraturium and signalling the markets that we could increase production and put into practice something you fool liberals will never be able to understand – something called the law of supply and demand – was what caused the drop in oil prices, you ignorant dumbass.
March 8, 2012 at 8:45 pm
Thank you Michael for you FACTS. It so sad that the liberals (including my family) only want to believe what they see and hear in the liberal media. Facts and facts and though I knew much of this information already and tried to use them in my family debate tonight, they just won’t listen. No wonder this country is going to hell in a handbasket.
I just wanted to let you that I thoroughly enjoyed reading your blog to to thank you for all your hard work on it.
March 8, 2012 at 9:28 pm
Anonymous,
Thanks for posting that.
It is for people like you and ONLY for people like you that I continue to work on this blog.
I really have no desire whatsoever to waste my time with liberal ideologues who are more incapable of understanding the truth than my dog. My goal is to 1) preserve a record as to how Obama destroyed America; and 2) to provide arguments and supporting facts/articles to conservatives and independents who are capable of being shaped by the truth.
March 9, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Sorry, good facts and research, but youe conclusions will always be confounded with the economic crash of 2008. Nobody will ever know if the plunge of oil in 08 was due to lifting the moratorium or economic crash. It is fairly foolish to insist either side is 100% correct, and that’s why there is no real sure answer. However, as well written and factual as your posts are, you do come off as a right wing nut job unfortunately which will always turn you off to moderates like me. Sorry.
March 10, 2012 at 2:22 am
None of us like paying higher prices for gasoline. Some of us can’t afford the price increases we have seen the last few weeks and months to get to work and wherever else we need (or want) to go, leaving us less to spend on other products. But what most politicians have to say on the subject is nonsense. They want to score political points, rather than find a way out of this mess, or at least a way to improve it.
The giddy, knee-jerk response to higher gasoline prices is the thoughtless mantra “drill, baby, drill.” But our problem is not a lack of domestic oil production. We are producing about all we can, with thousands of leases still not developed. And domestic demand is lower than it was 14 years ago. According to a report in Bloomberg Businessweek Magazine, the US demand for crude oil in 2011 was less than it was in April 1997. In spite of our gargantuan appetite for oil, as a share of our total use, domestic oil consumption was 15 points lower in 2005 than it was in 1995. Today’s figures are about the same, according to a petroleum report in the Financial Times of London.
The largest single source of oil for the US is Canada, at 25%. The OPEC countries together account for 47% of US imports. Demand for oil in the US dropped 2% in 2011, while US oil production has increased. The rise in gasoline prices is not because we don’t have enough oil. Two reasons for the higher prices are the rising cost of oil on the world market because of higher demand in China and India, and the actions of crude oil commodity speculators.
US oil companies export more oil products, such as gasoline and diesel, than they import. The top ten countries we export to are Mexico, Netherlands, Chile, Canada, Spain, Brazil, Guatemala, Turkey, Argentina, and France. In fact, most of the XL Pipeline tar sands oil that could come from Canada is slated to be turned into diesel and exported, according to the refineries that will process that oil if it ever comes into the US. The main reason for the increased US exports of petroleum products is that the refineries make more money exporting it than selling it domestically. Further, the refineries in the Port Arthur area are in a Foreign Trade Zone that rewards them with tax breaks for exporting oil products.
The thousands of new jobs that some politicians and business interests claim will be created by the XL Pipeline are nothing but Chamber of Commerce-type hype. The pipeline construction may result in 2500 temporary jobs, not tens of thousands of permanent jobs.
A leading expert on gas prices, James Hamilton of The University of California-San Diego, says that generally a $1 increase in the price of crude oil produces a 2.5-cent increase in the price of gasoline, which is exactly what has been happening in recent weeks.
While the gasoline price increases are not yet higher than they were in 2008, we did not hear President Bush being blamed for those increases then. But those opposed to President Obama have been yelling to anyone within earshot that the current responsibility for gasoline price increases are his. This is partisan and political nonsense, unsupported by the economic reality that about 97% of the price of gasoline is determined by the price of crude oil, according to Stuart Staniford, a scientist in the technology industry who studies oil-related data.
Around 2004, oil production stopped increasing world-wide. The producing countries have only so many pumps, oil pipelines, tankers, and other methods of getting the crude oil to refineries. As a result, the increasing demand from Asia and the rest of the rapidly-developing countries has created new competition for the oil production that is available, driving prices up. Decreasing demand for oil products caused by more energy-efficient vehicles makes a small difference in the price of gasoline, as do marginal increases or decreases in the price charged by retailers.
Oil commodity speculators also drive up the price of crude oil. According to some estimates, such speculators control 80% of the commodity futures market in crude oil. Such speculators don’t produce oil, refine it, or use it, except as a way to make money by arranging to buy it at one price and sell it at a higher price. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont) wrote recently for CNN Opinion:
“I’ve seen the raw documents that prove the role of speculators. Commodity Futures Trading Commission records showed that in the summer of 2008, when gas prices spiked to more than $4 a gallon, speculators overwhelmingly controlled the crude oil futures market. The commission, which supposedly represents the interests of the American people, had kept the information hidden from the public for nearly three years. That alone is an outrage. The American people had a right to know exactly who caused gas prices to skyrocket in 2008 and who is causing them to spike today.
“Even those inside the oil industry have admitted that speculation is driving up the price of gasoline. The CEO of Exxon-Mobil, Rex Tillerson, told a Senate hearing last year that speculation was driving up the price of a barrel of oil by as much as 40%. The general counsel of Delta Airlines, Ben Hirst, and the experts at Goldman Sachs also said excessive speculation is causing oil prices to spike by up to 40%. Even Saudi Arabia, the largest exporter of oil in the world, told the Bush administration back in 2008, during the last major spike in oil prices, that speculation was responsible for about $40 of a barrel of oil.”
Confirming Sen. Sanders’s statements are comments from Bart Chilton, a commissioner on the five-member Commodity Futures Trading Commission, which regulates the trading of contracts for future deliveries of oil, as well as other commodities: “There is currently ample supply and limited demand, which should not push prices to the places they are today. Financial regulators are not price setters, but we are supposed to ensure prices are fair, and I am concerned that today they are not. There is a speculative premium being paid by consumers and businesses alike.”
New shale oil production in North Dakota and West Texas, new off-shore production, and recovering oil from the Arctic might increase global supplies a bit if the oil can be shipped to refineries, and if the refineries can increase their capacity to produce more oil products. But given the increasing demand for oil in China and other countries with newly-growing economies, it is unlikely that the price of crude oil will be permanently reduced by those small increases in production. With speculators influencing the price of crude oil for their economic benefit, the price will continue to be significantly higher than it would be in a non-speculative market. Such speculators are rightly seen as social and economic parasites who would rather manipulate oil prices than do any productive work.
But the bottom line is that everyone in the world will pay whatever they must to get the oil they need no matter what causes price increases. And the US will not be exempt from these forces. The chances that this Congress will do something about the crude oil speculation seems not very good to me, so we will continue to pay higher prices than we need to pay at the pump.
Realistically (meaning we will get no help from Congress), the best we can hope to do to lessen the impact of high oil prices is to drive more economical vehicles, switch to electric and hydrogen-powered vehicles (when they become available), or find other technologies to meet our transportation needs that don’t rely so directly on oil products.
March 10, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Yaesuman Bill,
It is true that we are producing more oil – NOT ONE BIT OF THANKS TO OBAMA, GIVEN THAT THE INCREASE IN PRODUCTION IS COMING FROM STATES WHILE FEDERAL PRODUCTION HAS DECREASED BY 20% – than we were eight years ago.
But DEMAND IS THE LOWEST ITS BEEN IN FIFTEEN YEARS. Which would mean that if increasing production is ruled out, decreasing demand is TWICE as ruled out.
Here’s the problem: produciton has gone up very slightly, but GLOBAL DEMAND HAS SKYROCKETED.
Our production has come nowhere NEAR to addressing that increase in demand.
You couldn’t possibly be more wrong when you ignorantly assert:
Fact: The United States has a TRILLION BARELLS of recoverable oil.
I recently demonstrated for another fool what’s wrong with your argument that increasing production or even simply increasing ACCESS to increasing production results in a drop in oil prices if you just DO IT.
When the price of oil was sky high under Bush, Bush ended the moratorium on offshore drilling – and the price of oil PLUMMETED.
So you can throw all the theories you want at me: I’VE GOT ACTUAL DOCUMENTED HISTORY ON MY SIDE. And my actual documented history refutes all of your theories.
There’s another problem with your argument about the fact that oil companies are shipping oil elsewhere: under this demonic president who hates oil and oil companies with a Hitleresque passion, WHY SHOULDN’T THEY??? Why in the hell should they remain here where they are demonized and hated and penalized???
And you talk about “speculators,” and how they’ve driven up the price of oil. It’s not the SPECUALTORS, stupid: it’s the fact that Obama has done zero-point-zero-zero about Iran getting a damn nuclear bomb even as he has created a boiling caldren across the Middle East. You can look through my articles on Obama and Iran and see that I was predicting Iran would get the damn bomb and Obama wouldn’t do anything about it BEFORE OBAMA EVEN GOT ELECTED.
I have REPEATEDLY cited this article from the LA TIMES detailing how Obama, Biden and Hillary Clinton demonized George Bush for believing Iran was a nuclear threat and we should deal with Iran.
So to whatever impact “speculators” have, it is “speculation” that Barack Obama is an incompetent fool who was to useless and weak to deal with Iran when we had the chance.
March 10, 2012 at 8:04 pm
I’ll simply refer back to my proof of what I was saying here.
The price of oil dropped $9.26 AS BUSH WAS SPEAKING when he announced he was lifting the moratorium. And it continued to drop by basically ten bucks a day in the days immediately afterward. And this in July BEFORE the economy really blew up later in August/September. Which is to say that you are clearly not troubled by actual facts.
And if I had just one nickel for every time I’ve had a liberal pretend he or she was a “moderate” to deceitfully rhetorically pretend they are “the voice of bi-partisan reason,” I’d be a filthy rich man.
March 11, 2012 at 3:13 pm
The idiot author seems to have a conveniently short memory when it comes to gas prices (“Obama’s policies mean we will soon see $5 gas,” Feb. 24). He wants to “go back to 2008 prices.”
I remember 2008 gas prices well, as I had a service business at the time. Gas was $4.20 a gallon for regular. This was duringGeorge W. Bush’s presidency. When President Bush came into office in 2002, gas was only $1.40 a gallon.
March 11, 2012 at 4:26 pm
The idiot commenter ought to realize first of all that 1) Bush came into office in 2001, not 2002 and 2) that under the Bush presidency oil went from (actually) $1.44/gallon to $1.84 a gallon the day Obama took office.
So under George W. Bush, the price of a gallon of gas during the Bush presidency increased by 27.8 percent. Over eight years. Or a 3.5 percent increase per year of his presidency.
Bush was hamstrung by complete idiots otherwise called “Democrats.”
Nancy Pelosi did everthing she could to save us from evil oil so Americans wouldn’t be able to put gas in their cars. She said crap like:
And she was rabidly committed to gas prices soaring as much as she could make them soar.
Meanwhile her pal Harry Reid who was the leader of the Senate when Democrats successfully caused gas prices to soar so much said:
And Democrats got what they wanted. They “saved the planet” by making Americans pay up the whazoo for that demon oil that was making us so sick.
During the last two years of the Bush presidency when Nancy Pelosi was in charge of the House and Harry Reid was in charge of the Senate, the price of a gallon of gasoline went from a little over $2 to nearly $5 while Democrats steadfastly refused to allow for any increase in domestic production.
You see, you are a fool who blames the people who say, “We need more oil” and you are an apologist for the people who did everything they could do to keep us from having more oil. That’s your problem.
Anyway, the Demoncrats (that’s “Demonic Bureaucrat”) succeeded in giving the American people sky high gas prices. And then Bush finally went over their heads and ended the moratorium on offshore oil that allowed America to increase its production of the oil Democrats hated so much. While he was speaking, the price of oil dropped by over nine bucks a barell. And during the next few days, the price of oil went down, down, down as a result of Bush’s ending the ban. Oil in fact dropped by nearly ten bucks a DAY for days after Bush ended that damn ban which amounted to allowing production to INCREASE and causing prices of gas to DECREASE.
Meanwhile, Obama said he WANTED oil prices to go up – as long as the increase was gradual so people wouldn’t get pissed off and hold the fool (that would be Obama) personally resonsible.
When Obama was running for president, a liberal supporter said he was GLAD gas prices were high and Obama AGREED with him.
Barack Obama is the first president who has EVER said the goal of his presidency was to make energy prices “necessarily skyrocket” and to bankrupt coal companies from which Americans get half their electricity.
As a result of his fanatic rabidly liberal America-hating ideas, Obama picked an energy secretary who actually said:
“Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe.”
And that’s like ten bucks a gallon now. And going up fast.
Under Obama’s policies, he has done everything he could to choke off oil production on federal lands:
So gasoline increased by 27.8% over eight years of Bush’s presidency. How did they do under Obama so far?
As I documented, gas was $1.84 a gallon when Bush took office. Less than three and a half years later, gasoline cost $3.8148 as of March 9.
That is a 107.7 percent increase. Or a 36 percent increase for every year of his failed presidency.
And therefore gasoline will likely get to $5 a gallon by Memorial Day.
God help us if this little weasel gets reelected. It will be over $12 a gallon by the time he gets out of office. Which is to say he will have succeeded in doing exactly what he told us he would do: make our energy prices “necessarily skyrocket.”
March 12, 2012 at 6:38 am
The price of gas was a low $1.89 the day Obama took office because of the economic crisis resulting in low demand. On Sept 8 2008 it was $3.65, Oct 6 2008 it was $3.48.. To compare the price of gas today to Jan 20 2009, the day Obama took office, is really dishonest.
Also, it is nonsense to believe it is apples to apples when comparing gas prices in the first 26 weeks of each presidency. History is continous, you can’t look at time X without looking at time X minus delta. Something happened between Bush’s $4/gal in June 2008, and Obama’s $1.89 the day he was sworn it, it’s called a huge recession. Even Fox’s Chris Wallace understands this.
And the idea that lifting the offshore drilling moratorium is just plain dumb:
From Joseph Dukert (energy analyst):
Nonsense! Panic drove oil to that peak in 2008, but it was primarily the recession that drove it back down so far. Furthermore, U.S. domestic supply and demand are factors in world price, but usually not as significant as a variety of others.
Most energy economists applauded President Bush’s action in regard to offshore drilling, but suggesting that this “caused” the precipitous drop in global oil prices is akin to the rooster’s boast that his crowing brought the sun up. It’s heartening that U.S. domestic production of crude oil in 2009 was the highest it had been since 2003 (up roughly half a million barrels a day over those preceding years) . . . and that last year (despite the moratorium on new deepwater drilling that followed the BP blowout) U.S. crude production increased again — by about 250,000 barrels per day. But the countercyclical movement in 2010 showed that it makes little sense to attribute world price shifts to short-term U.S. production changes of any magnitude we might reasonably assume. It’s a big world out there!
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From Michael Canes (energy ecomonist):
Coincidence is not causation, and in this instance I’d say that the two events – the lifting of the moratoria and the ensuing reduction in oil prices – are much more in the coincidence realm than one of causation. I say that for several reasons.
1. There was a Congressional moratorium on offshore drilling in place at the time, and this moratorium was not lifted with the President’s action.
2. Even had that not been the case, the time from lifting of a moratorium to offshore leasing to drilling to discovery to production is measured in years, not weeks or months. At best, the possibility of future production from the lifting of a moratorium might have had some very slight impact on the present price of oil, but even that is questionable because of the uncertainties and timing involved.
3. Any such impact would be slight at best because worldwide production and consumption of oil at the time was about 85 million barrels per day, whereas new offshore U.S. discoveries from lifting of the moratorium likely would have yielded production of several hundred thousand barrels per day to maybe a million barrels per day, not many millions. While every bit helps, such incremental amounts could not have reduced world prices by over one hundred dollars per barrel.
4. Most oil market experts believe that the rapid and sustained reduction in oil prices that began in 2008 and extended beyond occurred because the world economy began to slow down and ultimately to experience a deep recession. This is one way to reduce oil prices, but not a very attractive one.
5. Finally, it is useful to put the President’s lifting of the moratorium into context. It occurred during the election campaign of 2008, at a time when gasoline prices had skyrocketed in the U.S., and it was accompanied by a request to Congress to remove the Congressional moratorium, putting pressure on Democrats to respond. Just a normal part of politics, both sides push for such advantage during election season, the point only is that it’s useful to understand the context of an action to better understand its rationale.
March 12, 2012 at 9:54 am
Jon,
None of your points even comes close to dealing with what I have now said over and over again in my comments to this article: in July of 2008, oil cost over $145 a barell. And Bush ended the ban, and the price of oil dropped by over nine dollars WHILE BUSH WAS SPEAKING and continued to drop by ten dollars a day for DAYS. And that set up the trajectory for lower oil prices more than ANYTHING else.
Bush ending the ban provided the signal to the industry and to speculators that America was actually going to increase the supply. And it wasn’t very long after that the DEMOCRATS who caved in on that ban AFTER DECADES OF OBSTRUCTION ON PROVIDING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WITH OIL.
Your argument that “it takes years” has been used for YEARS, you dumbass. If we’d done the stuff that took “years” years ago when Democrats said it wouldn’t matter because that stuff takes YEARS, we wouldn’t be in this boat now. How can you people never understand that??? AND YOU’RE STILL DOING IT WITH KEYSTONE NOW as if you’re animals who are incapable of truly being able to plan for the future in any way, shape or form.
What is Obama’s energy policy? Pissing away America’s prosperity with a hundred billion dollars for failed green energy boondoggles like Solyndra rather than increasing oil so we can fill our tanks with greeness rather than gasoline; inflating your tires so we can fix all our problems with Obama’s hot air rather than fill our tanks with gasoline; oh, and filling your tank with ALGAE rather than gasoline. And it is just such a mystery why that isn’t working.
Further, the Democrats CONTINUE TO IMPLICITLY AGREE THAT INCREASING THE SUPPLY OF OIL WILL LOWER PRICES even as they deny the very reality they affirm: Democrats have called on Obama to ask Saudi Arabia to increase production (increase the supply); Democrats have demanded Obama open the strategic petroleum reserve (increase the supply of oil into the market); Obama gave Brazil billions of dollars to drill for oil (increase the supply of oil). ALL WHILE DENYING THAT IF WE INCREASE OUR OWN DRILLING WE WOULD ACCOMPLISH THE SAME COST REDUCTION.
Still further, there is no way you can argue that Bush ending the moratorium was the MOST he could do as president. Versus your guy who is refusing to do the LEAST he could do. Obama killed Keystone when even his own LABOR UNIONS wanted it. Obama gives us fake believe on oil production. Obama is literally losing lawsuits over his strangling oil policies. Obama has even been caught red-handed altering SCIENCE DOCUMENTS to prevent oil drilling. Which is to say that Bush tried to increase production; Obama is trying to shut it down even while he lies out of his butt and tries to create the deceitful impression that he is the reason for any increased production.
That having been said, while you offer a good point or two, your overall argument is entirely full of sanctimonious crap. And here’s why: when the shoe was on the other foot, everybody like YOU were demonizing BUSH. And so when you do your “to compare the price of… to … the day Obama took office, is really dishonest, YOU ARE REALLY DISHONEST.
YOU are the Obama guy who joined in with Barry Hussein when he demonized George Bush over the damn debt ceiling –
And:
- And then YOU were the Obama guy who joined in and defended that same Obama after HE PROCEEDED TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING BY THE THREE LARGEST AMOUNTS IN THE HISTORY OF THE HUMAN RACE.
YOU are the Obama guy who demonized George Bush over Gitmo only to keep it open yourselves for the entire Obama presidency because Gitmo was the ONLY thing to do and you are pathologically dishonest weasels.
YOU are the Obama guy who joined in demonizing Bush for the 2008 collapse when IT WAS YOU DAMN DEMOCRATS WHO CREATED THE HOUSING BUBBLE WITH YOUR IDIOTIC AND IMMORAL FANNIE MAE POLICIES that led to the collapse.
Frankly, HOW DARE YOU get sanctimonious now after what your ilk did to Bush when gas prices got high (here and here and here and here and here and I could go on and on and on).
So to whatever limited extent we are doing to you what you did to us, YOU GET TO ENJOY THE TASTE OF YOUR OWN MEDICINE NOW, DON’T YOU???
March 12, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Michael Eden: The lift on the moratorium had nothing to do with the drop in gas prices. That’s coming from energy experts. The drop was caused by low demand caused by the economic crisis. Your arguments are based on name calling and willful stupidity. I’ll let Mike Wallace from Fox News explain it to you:
WALLACE: But Mr. Speaker, gas experts make two points. First of all, you pointed out the fact that gasoline was $1.89 a gallon when President Obama took office. They say that’s a bit misleading because it was the depths of the recession, so understandably gas prices had gone down. And fact is, just six months before it was $4.11 under President Bush.
OR Washington Post Fact Checker:
Boehner correctly noted that gas prices have doubled since President Obama took office. But he did not mention that they were unusually low in early 2009 because of the economic crisis, when demand for energy plunged. We’re not sure that the economic misery of those days is worth cheap gas.
OR Patrick DeHaan, a senior petroleum analyst at gasbuddy.com:
DeHaan acknowledged that prices risen considerably since Obama took office. But he was quick to add there should “be a massive asterisk” next to that statement. A big reason prices were so low to begin with when Obama became president was because he entered the White House as the U.S. was coming out of an economic downturn, which depresses gas prices.
It’s hard to believe adults can reason like you. But please go ahead and enjoy spreading your propaganda.
But first, one more time: Explaining the drop in gas prices using the lift on the moratorium is pure nonsense. Thus, the whole point of this topic is idiotic. The title should read: “Bush Vs. Obama On Gasoline Prices In One Very MISLEADING Simple Picture”.
March 12, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Jon,
AGAIN you COMPLETELY IGNORE THE FACTS. And your replacing facts with appeals to leftwing “authorities” is simply pathetic. Here are the facts AGAIN:
During the last two years of the Bush presidency when Nancy Pelosi was in charge of the House and Harry Reid was in charge of the Senate, the price of a gallon of gasoline went from a little over $2 to nearly $5 while Democrats steadfastly refused to allow for any increase in domestic production. So the increase in gas prices was more DEMOCRAT fault than Republican fault, as I can show.
The national average price of gasoline was well over $4 when George Bush realized that something had to be done, that Democrats would never do anything, and he had to act. Bush ended the moratorium on offshore drilling on July 14, 2008.
On July 11, 2008 (the closest figure I could find), the price of crude oil was $145.08 a barrel.
Bush ended the ban.
Democrats shrieked stuff like, “This proposal is something you’d expect from an oil company CEO, not the president of the United States,” said Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., chairwoman of the Senate Environment Committee. “The president is taking special-interest government to a new level and threatening our thriving coastal economy.”
And of course the Democrats were right: the “special interest” of the American people finally got considered:
The price of a barrel of oil IMMEDIATELY dropped by $9.26 AS BUSH WAS SPEAKING.
In the few days that followed, the precipitous upward climb in the price of oil went down, down, DOWN:
We had the price of oil dropping by ten bucks a day every day after Bush ended the moratorium.
You can look at the link that has the NYSE prices to keep watching the trend.
Now, our economy didn’t blow up until SEPTEMBER, you stupid jackass. Your premise is therefore utterly refuted by the FACT that the Bush end to the moratorium IMMEDIATELY brought down gas prices and the FACT that the crash hadn’t even OCCURRED yet when Bush in fact brought those oil prices down.
I will be blocking you as a fool who refuses to interact with basic facts. I tried TWICE to get you to deal with the above facts to no avail. And there is simply no point whatsoever in trying to have any kind of discussion with somebody who refuses to even bother to try to interact with what you are saying.
The other thing is – in response to your “please go ahead and enjoy spreading your propaganda” – IS THAT YOU STINKING TURD LIBERALS LOVE PROPAGANDA AS LONG AS IT’S YOUR PROPAGANDA. So when it was YOUR side illegitimately demonizing Bush, you were just fine with that, you hypocrite slimebag.
Now get lost and go hump somebody else’s leg.
March 12, 2012 at 8:06 pm
It is unfair to blame Obama or to have blamed Bush when gas prices went up and cheer them when gas prices dropped.
Scientifically speaking, you are not comparing apples to apples as there are too many variables that influence the price of gas to have an equal comparison. Yaesuman Bill points out several things that influence gas prices; I would add things like lack of US refinery capacity and the age of US refineries (which are frequently down for maintenance or due to accidents) drive up the price of gas, warm or cold winters and summers which drive demand (of heating oil), public confidence in the economy (rather than the actual economic indicators), etc.
Name-calling (on both sides) does not add to the argument, it merely turns independent thinkers off.
March 12, 2012 at 10:16 pm
“a scientist and engineer,”
You can call yourself “Napolean the conqueror of Western Civilization” for all I care. You are a lying little turd is the bottom line. You are as independent of a thinker as the mole on my butt is an “independent thinker,” you liberal tool. And it really aint.
The only “variable” that matters is the fact that Barack Obama and Democrats demonized George Bush for gas prices and somehow you little freaks weren’t saying ANY of that “let’s none of us say anything bad about our president about gas prices” when said president was named Bush, you hypocrite liar. And I would love to have you try to show me otherwise.
The polls are overwhelming: they show Obama at an all time low over his failure to do a damn thing about gas prices.
So now you liberals are panicking that people are actually starting to hold Obama accountable to his own words. And we just can’t have liberals being held to their own demagoguery, can we???
And all of you liberal losers “scientifically speaking” crap has STILL never bothered to even ONCE deal with the basic FACTS:
Bush ended the moratorium and prices for oil IMMEDIATELY WENT DOWN. Prices went down because Bush showed he was serious about allowing oil production to increase and “scientifically speaking” there is something called the law of supply and demand that intelligent people recognize.
Obama could have similarly lowered prices by himself demonstrating he was serious about increasing the oil production that we need rather than demonizing oil and pissing away a hundred billion dollars on failed green boondoggles like Solyndra. But nope: he had an opportunity handed to him on a golden platter – even had a chance to do something his union thug masters wanted – but instead he bowed down to his green crony capitalists.
Democrats have themselves recognized that increasing supplies will lower prices: they have demanded that Obama ask Saudi Arabia to increase production; they have asked Obama to release more oil into the system via the strategic reserves; Obama has given Brazil billions to drill. Democrats believe increasing the supply of oil will work AS LONG AS WE ARE NEVER ALLOWED TO TOUCH OUR OWN OIL.
Oh, and btw, THE OIL REFINERIES ARE OLD BECAUSE YOU DAMN COCKROACH LIBERALS HAVEN’T ALLOWED THE OIL COMPANIES TO BUILD ONE IN FORTY YEARS.
For example, 92% of Democrats voted against the refinery bill (Refinery Permit Process Schedule Act, H.R. 5254) versus 99% of Republicans supporting it. Republicans brought up the No More Excuses Energy Act which would have eliminated barriers to building new refineries in the United States – and Democrats voted it down in droves. Democrats have put up so many restrictions and regulations and barriers to building new refinerees that it is likely that we will never have one built in the United States again. So even your miserable excuses that you call “variables” are damn Democrats’ faults.
March 13, 2012 at 5:13 am
“Bush ended the moratorium and prices for oil IMMEDIATELY WENT DOWN.” Show me one energy expert who thinks the end of the moratorium caused the price of gas to drop.
March 13, 2012 at 1:08 pm
An “expert” once told Jon to stick his head under the wheels of a moving bus. That’s why he’s got all his problems now.
I’d rather deal with the laboratory of prediction and FACT than waste my time looking for what some “expert” says.
Here’s the prediction regarding the moratorium from the New York Slimes:
Now, if you don’t think that I could find an “EXPERT” from the many experts under the employ of the oil industry, you are even more stupid than I thought; and I thought you were plenty stupid before.
Here’s the documented historical FACT:
Now, if none of your “experts” believe that a drop of 6.3 percent in oil prices while Bush was speaking had anything to do with what Bush was saying; if you don’t think the ten dollar a day drop that we say from the day Bush spoke that went on for DAYS had anything to do with what Bush said; if you don’t think that oil was going up and up and up prior to when Bush spoke and was at $145 a barell as Bush spoke, only to begin an immediate drop the moment Bush began speaking which continued to go down and never go back up until after Bush was out of office, then you and all of your “experts” are simply pathological.
I suppose I’m unique in all the world, but I don’t need to consult the “experts” to tell me if the sky is blue. For whatever reason, I – maybe alone – possess the ability to go outside, look at the sky, and declare, “The sky is blue.” I’m sorry you can’t know what that’s like, Jon. And in the same way, I can look at the price of oil as Bush is speaking, watch it plunge as he speaks, continue to watch what had gone up and up and up start going down and down and down immediately after Bush spoke, and I can say, “The end of the moratorium made oil prices go down.” And all by myself, too.
But please don’t feel stupid or anything, Jon. My dog can’t do that, either.
When Bush ended the moratorium, it was obvious to everyone but a wide-eyed Nancy Pelosi that Democrats would cave in and vote to officially end the moratorium. And everybody knew it who wasn’t either crazy or evil, Jon. The vote by the Democrats controlling Congress just made what everybody knew would happen and the markets had very obviously already largely already acted upon official. Nothing more.
I’m done with you. You may feel free to visit my spam as often as you like, but I’m not waste any more of my time with you.
March 14, 2012 at 12:33 am
Nice personal attack, but you didn’t really address the point. Are we talking about demonizing presidents and anyone who does not praise your rambling, disorganized tirade or what causes gas prices to fluctuate in the US? Are you trying to emulate Rush Limbaugh? It is people like you who give thoughtful, intelligent conservatives a bad name.
What do the polls about Obama (or any other politicians for that matter) have to do with your fractured argument? I see you even agree with my point about oil refineries but then rant that I have not allowed oil companies to build one! Don’t blame me, I have had nothing to do with that, for or against.
You are correct that supply and demand do influence the price of goods such as oil. However, when Bush ended the moratorium, the supply of oil did not change one bit. Do you think that the oil companies immediately drilled, struck oil, and transported it to the refineries? If anything realting to the speach caused the change, it was speculation that the oil supply would increase. So, it shows that speculation is a significant factor in oil prices. The other point is that US supply and demand is only a fraction of world supply and demand (albeit a large fraction of demand).
I am curious what you think of global warming being caused by the accumulation of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. The cause and effect argument is the same (but over a longer period of time). I am not 100% sure of either because they are both extremely complex systems that can not be so easily simplified. They are both points that deserve consideration though. We just need to look at the facts and try and draw proper conclusions.
March 14, 2012 at 8:19 am
It’s interesting that Eden’s ‘supporting documents’ are all right-wing nut job sites. It’s like asking your mother if you are a great singer. That’s why RePUGlicans have 6-toes, follow NASCAR, and have Rush as their God.
March 14, 2012 at 2:03 pm
“a scientist and engineer,”
First of all, congratulations for being the one-billionth liberal to try to make yourself a pathetic victim of “personal attack.” Liberals are the kind of people who call conservatives “demons” and “terrorists” and then fall on the ground and cry the moment a conservative gives them a dirty look. I’ve written about my disgust of people like you.
Second, allow me to begin by bringing up just the points that you refuse to acknowledge in my personal response to you – just to document what an abject vile hypocrite you are.
I point out that “The polls are overwhelming: they show Obama at an all time low over his failure to do a damn thing about gas prices.” And I go on to point out that You don’t deign to mention the fact that I am on the side of the overwhelming majority of Americans, whereas you represent the view of the North Korea “Kim Jong Il for president for life!” minority. As you sanctimoniusly lecture me, “you didn’t really address the point.”
What do the polls have to do with my “fractured argument”? They document that the American people overwhelmingly affirm “my fractured argument” and shun YOUR view, that’s what they do. What they document is that you are on the minority side of this argument and the burden is on YOU and that it is YOUR side with the “fractured argument.” But here you are idiotically pretending the burden of proof is one me when everybody agrees with me and everybody thinks that people just like YOU are the real problem.
Interestingly, every single time we get into a real energy crisis, the American people say that people like you are abject dumbasses. EVERY SINGLE TIME. But as I said, “you didn’t really address the point.” You just waved your hand at it.
I point out “that people are actually starting to hold Obama accountable to his own words.” And how nothing is more fair play than turnabout. And again, “you didn’t really address the point.” You seem to despicably believe that liberals can demonize conservatives but how dare liberals do unto liberals what liberals just did unto them. Don’t you dare tell me that the same damn arguments your side used to demonize my side aren’t valid any more – at least until the next time you damn hypocrite liberals need them again.
I point out that “Bush ended the moratorium and prices for oil IMMEDIATELY WENT DOWN.” And I have DOCUMENTED THAT FACT THROUGHOUT MY COMMENTS. You and ALL of your fellow liberals have NEVER ONCE EVEN TRIED TO DEAL WITH THAT. Yet again, “you didn’t really address the point.”
I point out that “Obama could have similarly lowered prices by himself demonstrating he was serious about increasing the oil production that we need rather than demonizing oil and pissing away a hundred billion dollars on failed green boondoggles like Solyndra. But nope: he had an opportunity handed to him on a golden platter – even had a chance to do something his union thug masters wanted – but instead he bowed down to his green crony capitalists.” But let me quote your own snotty words: “you didn’t really address the point.”
I point out that “Democrats have themselves recognized that increasing supplies will lower prices” and go on to explain at least three ways they are doing that as we speak. And yet again, “”you didn’t really address the point.”
I interact with your very own point that “several things that influence gas prices; I would add things like lack of US refinery capacity and the age of US refineries (which are frequently down for maintenance or due to accidents) drive up the price of gas…” and point out: “THE OIL REFINERIES ARE OLD BECAUSE YOU DAMN COCKROACH LIBERALS HAVEN’T ALLOWED THE OIL COMPANIES TO BUILD ONE IN FORTY YEARS.” And then I proceed to document my refutation of your idiotic assertion with evidence of my response.
Don’t you DARE pretend that DEMOCRATS whose side you have taken at every turn are 100% responsible for the strangling of new refineries and Republicans whose side I take have done everything they could to break through the forty-year-long filibuster. But to repeat the refrain, “you didn’t really address the point.” That’s like Bob punching Charlie in the face with a sucker punch and then blaming Charlie for lying on the ground.
And after simply ignoring EVERY SINGLE DAMN THING I SAID, you actually have the self-righteous, sanctimonious hypocrite chutzpah to barge in on MY blog and tell me, “you didn’t really address the point”???? Are you like a little tiny mouse with giant elephant balls or something?
You say, “However, when Bush ended the moratorium, the supply of oil did not change one bit.”
I have on several occassions here – even as I pointed out the SIMPLE DOCUMENTED FACT THAT THE PRICES IMMEDIATELY WENT DOWN WHEN BUSH ENDED THE BAN (see here and here and here (just to show a couple) – explained WHY Bush ending the ban would have caused prices to go down. Which not ONE of you liberals has ever even TRIED to deal with. As I said to YOU, “Prices went down because Bush showed he was serious about allowing oil production to increase.”
As I quoted an “energy expert” that another liberal said I couldn’t produce, “This would send a very strong signal to the global market that the United States is finally getting serious about producing its own energy resources.”
I also explained to that liberal, “When Bush ended the moratorium, it was obvious to everyone but a wide-eyed Nancy Pelosi that Democrats would cave in and vote to officially end the moratorium. And everybody knew it who wasn’t either crazy or evil, Jon. The vote by the Democrats controlling Congress just made what everybody knew would happen and the markets had very obviously already largely already acted upon official. Nothing more.
No, dumbass, I DON’T think that “the oil companies immediately drilled, struck oil, and transported it to the refineries” in the seconds after Bush announced he was ending the ban AND OIL PRICES IMMEDIATELY WENT DOWN NEARLY TEN DOLLARS WHILE BUSH WAS SPEAKING. And I frankly am astounded that you liberals are so toxically ignorant about how commodities are bought and sold that you can’t comprehend this: it’s NOT just the immediate supply that is available on the market today that the market takes into account; it is FUTURE ACCESS TO OIL PRODUCTION.
If “speculators” believe that oil tomorrow is going to be more scarce, it will drive up the price of oil TODAY as they begin buying oil futures contracts to take advantage of the lower current price thereby driving up the current price.
In the case of Bush’s announcement, as Bush was speaking, speculators immediately acted upon their belief that America would increase its oil production thereby increasing oil supplies and thereby lowering the future value of oil such that the prices of oil immediately went down.
And again, how on earth can you be so ignorant not to understand that and then idiotically lecture me???
As to my views on global warming, I have amply documented them. Just click on the “global warming” link to the right of my blog and you will get ad nauseum of what I think about it and why I think it. That said, here are a couple of (albeit older) articles in which I provided a great deal of research and evidence:
What the Science REALLY Says About Global Warming
What You Never Hear About Global Warming
March 14, 2012 at 2:55 pm
All RePUGlicans Must Die,
I find it fascinating that a guy who literally calls himself “All RePUGlicans Must Die” would decry anybody else’s objectivity. It is a testimony to his belief that only a liberal has the right to be an ideologue.
But that said, there’s another issue called “the genetic fallacy.” Just because Adolf Hitler says “good morning” it does not make it a logical fact that it must be raining. Only a fool condemns something outright just because of its source.
(That said, I frequently quote the New York Slimes and even things like the Daily Kos; didn’t know they were “right-wing nut job sites”).
If I have ANY factual errors, why not prove me wrong and correct me rather than be an abject coward and fool who lives off of stupid left-wing idiot assertions???
YOU clearly don’t have that capability.
March 15, 2012 at 8:22 pm
I enjoyed this article and found it fascinating. I am an RN for autistic children who have Medicaid and never really paid much attention to politics until it started affecting my work with this “ObamaCare.” I do not see anything wrong with this article, I see facts and quotes that Obama made, and he hasn’t done anything for this country that I can name off the top of my head. I mean gas prices lowered for what? a month or two?
Obama seems like he has something up his sleeve and these gas prices and health care subjects are just decoys for what is really going on. This is never how America was suppose to be ran, the people were suppose to have say in everything. Now we can barely afford the grocery store because we have to feed our gas tanks instead, and our healthcare system is complete in the toilet. ( For you who are going to say its not, hold your tongue unless you actually work with it every single day like I do.) I’m not republican and I’m not democrat; I’m just an American who would like to continue living this so called American Dream, if we could ever get it back……. I guess we should have read the fine print when Obama said it’s Time for Change, I guess he meant it wasn’t for the good of this country’s citizens. Let’s change again and maybe this time fix it.
March 16, 2012 at 12:03 pm
At this point – and BECAUSE of ObamaCare, half of all doctors are no longer accepting Medicaid. The reimbursement is too low for them to remain in business even as the paperwork and regulations are too high for them to handle.
This is par for the course for an administration and a party that believe that all workers – most definitely including medical workers – ought to work as though we live in a Marxist state until we actually GET to the Marxist state they want to impose on us.
Every time I go to the doctor I mock ObamaCare. And every time I mock ObamaCare to a medical professional I get rolled eyes of contempt over this contemptuous takeover of our health care system and a “Tell me about it.”
ObamaCare is going to DOUBLE the cost that our liar-in-chief and his lying Democrat Party stooges sold us.
And as many as 20 million working Americans are going to lose their employer coverage so they can get shunted over to the inferior Medicaid system – you know, the one where HALF OF DOCTORS AREN’T ACCEPTING PATIENTS.
Everything these pathological weasels said was a complete lie.
So you aren’t so dumb after all, SMART ONE with POLITICS.
March 20, 2012 at 9:27 am
I love how you cut out 2007 and 2008 when gas prices under Bush were 3 to 4 dollars a gallon. Way to go with that bias.
March 20, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Bill,
Excuse me, but“I” didn’t cut out anything. What I DID do was provide an article – which I did not edit in any way, shape or form – that compared the Obama period to the EXACT SAME PERIOD IN BOTH MEN’S PRESIDENCIES.
Which is to say, because of your incredibly vile liberal bias, you literally believe that comparing the same period of time in Obama’s presidency to the very same period of time in Bush’s presidency is “biased.”
Further, if you want to talk about incredible selective evidence, why didn’t you choose to mention the FACT that Barack Obama has now boasted about oil production that either A) was the result of BUSH policies:
From the Miami Herald:
or B) occurred in state- and privately-owned land which had absolutely NOTHING to do with Obama’s policies (and in fact occurred in SPITE of Obama’s policies):
From Bloomberg:
The very fact that you sanctimoniously accuse me of bias when you are so filled with bias that it is beyond unreal is a statement that you are not worth having any kind of a conversation with.
March 23, 2012 at 5:58 am
Cloak your self in the TRUTH.
May 11, 2012 at 3:01 pm
both sides, controlled by the same evil, work together to get things their way
May 11, 2012 at 3:29 pm
The funniest thing I get is when raving liberals start saying, “Both sides are to blame” when THEIR side is in power. You never hear that from them when they’re pouring flaming feces on a Republican president…
There are a LOT of factors that create high gas prices. Three of them are: 1) monetary inflating policies (i.e., the stimulus, QE1, QE2, etc.). Because oil is a commodity and if the dollar goes down in value, it will cost more dollars to purchase the same amount of oil; 2) the oil supply. Because oil as a commodity very much boils down to supply and demand; and 3) global security. Because when Iran is on the verge of getting a nuclear bomb and can then shut down the Strait of Hormuz with impunity, it’s just really bad for the flow of oil. And as that becomes an increasing likelihood, the markets factor that future risk in terms of higher present costs.
There are lots of other factors, of course. But those three are pretty big.
As we speak, gas and oil are going down very slightly. Not because of any policy success, but because the economy is tanking again and therefore reducing consumption. That aint anything to brag about.