(Regarding Joseph Smith’s alleged first vision where celestial personages appeared to him) . . . “My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right — and which I should join. I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong, and the personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in His sight: that those professors were all corrupt . . .” (Joseph Smith, History of the Church, vol. 1, p. 5-6).
And today we’re able to say, “Yeah, right. And look who’s talking…”
Mormonism is a terrible sham and I am always amazed when I see a person standing at my door in his white dress shirt and black tie who in spite of all appearances of intellect is a completely brainwashed idiot.
It has often been said, “The only thing wrong with Christianity is Christians.” And – aside from the rather obvious fact that this charge could fit ALL groups and ALL professions whether we want to talk about black people or white people or police officers or teachers or nurses – it’s true. Many Christians are hypocrites who too often do not act out their faith in their daily lives. According to the Christian Scriptures, Christians are filled with the Holy Spirit when we’re saved to new life in Christ. But the same Christian Scriptures also point out the fact that the sin nature remains and that the temptation to sin will remain a part of our human natures and our lives until the day we leave this earth.
Another fact of human nature is that we do not have perfect knowledge and if you put a group of people into a room and have them talk in detail about the beliefs most important to their lives, they will invariably all disagree with each other. And to the extent that they haven’t disagreed yet merely means that they haven’t talked long enough or deeply enough yet. People who agree to nine levels of sub-headings will disagree on the tenth level. Or the eleventh. Or the twelfth. Because we’re all ultimately different.
Joseph Smith was a religious charlatan who exploited those two facts of human nature when he fabricated his own religion.
It has always amazed me how otherwise intelligent people could buy into such a fraud.
Doyle sits in his cluttered living room, detective paperbacks, tomes on theology and Laurel & Hardy videos crammed on bookshelves. The only item that has room to breathe is a photograph of his 18-year-old daughter, Shari.I wondered, I asked, ‘Is this God or is this horny old David?’
–Clive Doyle, Branch Davidian
She was one of Koresh’s “wives.”
In the photo, Shari is flaxen haired, flushed and smiling, hugging the family dog.
That Koresh bedded his daughter makes Doyle shift in his seat, and when he speaks of it, his jaw tightens.
Doyle says his daughter started having sex with Koresh when she was 14. Koresh fathered at least 13 children with sect followers and engaged in sexual acts with underage Davidian girls, according to the Justice Department, numerous affidavits of Davidians and interviews CNN conducted with survivors. Watch a video Koresh recorded of himself with his children inside the compound during the siege.
Davidian Kiri Jewel testified during 1995 congressional hearings on the siege that Koresh slept in a bed with women and children, and she believed that he had impregnated a 14-year-old. Koresh, she said, often talked about how the young girls at the compound pleased him sexually. Jewel described in graphic detail how Koresh sexually assaulted her. She testified that she wasn’t afraid of getting pregnant; she was too young, she explained. She’d not even started menstruating yet.
Doyle insists that his daughter Shari, even at a young age, was capable of deciding whether to have sex with Koresh. The teen was also clearheaded, he says, when she chose to remain inside the compound despite having the chance to leave.
“She wanted to be with David and to hear and follow the message,” her father says.
There is silence for a moment. Doyle knows that trying to justify Koresh having sex with underage girls incites nothing but outrage from nonbelievers. And, initially, when David began preaching a message that his holy seed must be spread to any girl he preferred, married or in pigtails, Doyle admits he was bothered by it.
“I wondered, I asked, ‘Is this God or is this horny old David?’ “
But Doyle’s concern didn’t last long.
“I couldn’t argue because he’d show you where it was in the Bible.”
I still marvel that men sat placidly while this false messiah had sex with their wives and with their young daughters. I wonder what went so mentally and morally wrong with them.
One of the beautiful passages in the Bible declares that “To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven.”
We find in the Bible acts of savagery, to the point of genocide. There is a time for war and there is a time for peace. And yeah, there is a time for girls to become women and become wives.
But not to a roach like David Koresh. And not to a roach like Joseph Smith.
And you just shake your head and wonder how people can so butcher Scripture that they allow a self-serving malignant narcissist to take over their lives and their wives’ lives and their daughters’ lives.
I know you don’t know me, so allow me to tell you one personal detail about myself: if I’m in a church and my pastor comes up to me and points to a passage in the Old Testament and declares that he gets to have sex with my wife or with my fourteen-year-old daughter, I will (in this order): 1) punch the pastor’s lights out; 2) tell everyone in the congregation and the outside community that this “pastor” is a demonic fraud; and 3) walk out of that church and never darken its doors again unless and until that pastor and every elder who in any way supports him is thrown out.
It’s really not that hard. Christians have held a very simple principle for two millennia: if an Old Testament passage remains valid for New Testament Christian believers, it will be restated in the New Testament.
If you want to try to show me where you can practice polygamy, have sex with women who are the wives of other men, have sex with my wife, or have sex with my young daughter in the New Testament, you have at it.
I’m standing right here, waiting. Okay, I’m sitting. Because it’s gonna take you a long, loooooong time to come up with anything.
Christians do not belong to the Old Covenant. God understands that times change. He revealed Himself in a progressive way first to Adam and to and through the Patriarchs and then to and through Moses. There was a season and a purpose under heaven for that Old Covenant, but it ended.
The Old Testament is crystal clear that God was going to inaugurate a New Covenant:
“Behold, days are coming,” declares the LORD, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them,” declares the LORD. — Jeremiah 31:31-32
The Book of Ezekiel foreshadows that New Covenant by describing the key detail that would happen only in that New Covenant:
“I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will be careful to observe My ordinances. — Ezekiel 36:27 (see Acts 2:38-39 for context in the New Testament).
It was through the work of Jesus on the cross that we can have God’s Spirit within us. And through nothing else can we have that Spirit.
In another example of the Old Covenant ending, we have a vision of God’s glory leaving the Temple in Ezekiel chapter 10. Israel had rejected God and God would not dwell in the midst of their rebellion and sin. Ezekiel prophetically described that the glory of God would one day return to the Temple in Ezekiel chapter 43, but that event has clearly not happened as the Temple described has yet to be built. When you consider the dimensions of that future Temple as described in Ezekiel 43, when you consider it would have no wall of partition between Jews and Gentiles and no court of women, for instance, it has clearly never been rebuilt. True Christians join Jews in believing that one day there will be such a Temple, but it will not be built until Messiah returns as King of kings. Anyway, the glory of God did not reappear to Israel in any form until it arrived in the form of Jesus of Nazareth (see Hebrews 1:3 and 2 Corinthians 4:6), the divine Son of God, who came to live a perfect life in our place and then take our sin upon Himself so that He could suffer and die for our sins and we in exchange could rise to new life with Him and through Him. Jesus assumed a human nature in addition to His divine nature, but God can’t stay dead. And so Jesus rose bodily from the grave. And everyone who calls on His name can rise with Him, such that death has no power over them.
The Glory of God departed from the Temple in Ezekiel 10. And the glory of God never returned to any man-made place since.
In Ezekiel 43 the glory of the Lord will re-enter through that very same East gate that it departed from in Ezekiel 10. When Jesus entered Jerusalem as the Messiah during His First Advent, He entered through that same East Gate through which the glory of the Lord had departed (Luke 19:28-48). And when He was rejected as Messiah, He too departed through the East gate (see Matthew 21:12-17). And then Jesus wept over Jerusalem (Matthew 23:37-39) and said, “From now on you will not see Me until you say, “Blessed is He who comes in the name of the LORD” (v. 39).
The Temple of Ezekiel will be built by Jesus Christ after He returns as King of kings and Lord of lords. And His national people Israel will say, “Blessed IS He who comes in the name of the LORD!”
Anyway, true Christians are not bound by any Old Testament practice that is not affirmed by the New Covenant as revealed in the New Testament. We don’t have to keep the dietary laws, we don’t have to practice animal sacrifice, we don’t have to have to wipe out the Amorites, etc. And anyone who tells you that it is okay to marry polygamously or that they can have relations with your wife or your young daughter is a demoniac who perverts the Scriptures rather than a Christian who follows the Scriptures.
The Mormon church acknowledges in a new essay that founder Joseph Smith had a teenage bride and was married to other men’s wives during the faith’s early polygamous days, a recognition of an unflattering part of its roots that historians have chronicled for years.
And let us consider what the Old Testament Scriptures that Joseph Smith was illegitimately exploiting to satiate his own lusts had to say about how he should have been treated by that Old Testament system:
Leviticus 20:10 — “If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife–with the wife of his neighbor–both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.“
Oops. Sorry, Joe. But we’re going to have to stone you now.
“An unflattering part” indeed.
Not that the rest of the Mormon Church’s history has ever been anything other than “unflattering.” Because from a diseased root grows a diseased tree.
Mormonism is a sham revealed by a demon through a wicked man. The very name “Mormon” actually conveys this, because the demon’s name was “Moroni.” Mormons are really following a demon. And the life of their founder illustrates it nicely. Joseph Smith was far more a petty con-man than a prophet of God and the founder of a new religion.
As do ALL satanic false religions, Mormonism denies the true deity of Jesus. Through Mormonism, Satan literally drags Jesus down to his mere equal by claiming that Jesus is the spirit-brother of Lucifer rather than the divine God the Son.
The Scriptures ARE the Word of God. And every word of God’s Word is true. In addition to the Scriptures – and in particular the New Testament Scriptures which define true belief for Christian believers – we have the historic first Seven universal ecumenical councils of Christianity in which the orthodox, the TRUE, nature of Christianity was clearly defined and delineated. The main heresy of Mormonism – the rejection that Jesus was merely a created being – was ruled by the Early Church and by the Church Fathers nearly two thousand years ago.
Don’t be a fool. Don’t be deceived by a fools’ religion.