Posts Tagged ‘Boehner Plan’

‘Unconscionable’ Worm Harry Reid Demonizes Republicans For 60 Vote Requirement: READ REID’S OWN PREVIOUS WORDS

July 31, 2011

Harry Reid is a worm.  He can’t be negotiated with or compromised with because he is a pathologically dishonest hypocrite who can’t be trusted.

Here is Harry Reid demonizing Mitch McConnell for not allowing his smoke-and-mirrors bill to have a straight up or down vote.  Never mind that Reid had just got through tabling not one but TWO Republicans bills without allowing a vote at all.  And just how in the hell does that foster anything but a bitter and poisonous climate?

“It’s fair to say that the engagement there is not in any meaningful way,” Reid said. “Republican leaders still refuse to negotiate in good faith.” [...]

He suggested that delaying tactics being exercised by his Republican colleagues are preventing a measure from advancing in the upper congressional chamber to raise the debt ceiling. The Democratic leader spelled out the word f-i-l-i-b-u-s-t-e-r to make his case.

“You can put lipstick on it, a nice suit, even a skirt on it sometimes, it’s still a filibuster,” Reid said in comments directed at McConnell. The Nevada Democrat suggested that it’d be “unconscionable” for Republicans to use the maneuver to prevent a bill from passing to avert default.

Filibusters (requiring 60 votes)_ are “unconscionable,” are they?  Let’s see how Harry Reid applies that to, oh, Harry Reid.

What is funny” is that I actually had a hard time finding these quotes even though I actually had the VIDEO of one of them.  The mainstream media’s dishonesty, corruption and propaganda are reaching sickening new depths.

Sen. Reid: ‘It’s Always Been The Case You Need 60 Votes’
Jul 29 2011

Sen. Reid Says: ‘The Need To Muster 60 Votes… Is A Tool That Serves The Long-Term Interest Of The Senate And The American People And Our Country.’

SEN. HARRY REID (D-NV): “In the Senate, it’s always been the case you need 60 votes.” (PBS’ “Charlie Rose Show,” 3/5/07)

SEN. HARRY REID (D-NV): “As majority leader, I intend to run the Senate with respect for the rules and for the minority rights the rules protect. The Senate was not established to be efficient. Sometimes the rules get in the way of efficiency. The Senate was established to make sure that minorities are protected. Majorities can always protect themselves, but minorities cannot. That is what the Senate is all about. For more than 200 years, the rules of the Senate have protected the American people, and rightfully so. The need to muster 60 votes in order to terminate Senate debate naturally frustrates the majority and oftentimes the minority. I am sure it will frustrate me when I assume the office of majority leader in a few weeks. But I recognize this requirement is a tool that serves the long-term interest of the Senate and the American people and our country. It is often said that the laws are ‘the system of wise restraints that set men free.’ The same might be said of the Senate rules. I will do my part as majority leader to foster respect for the rules and traditions of our great institution. I say on this floor that I love so much that I believe in the Golden Rule. I am going to treat my Republican colleagues the way that I expect to be treated. There is no ‘I’ve got you,’ no get even. I am going to do everything I can to preserve the traditions and rules of this institution that I love.” (Sen. Reid, Congressional Record, S.11591, 12/8/06)

SEN. HARRY REID (D-NV): “60 votes are required for just about everything.” “I have talked with Senator McConnell about this. You know, we may have to come up with a number of resolutions that require 60 votes. Because, as you know, in the Senate, a lot of times 60 votes are required for just about everything. So that’s certainly one of the things we’re taking into consideration.” (Sen. Harry Reid, Press Conference, CQ Transcriptions, 1/30/07)

I don’t have to quote some Republican to show that Harry Reid is an “unconscionable” dishonest little hypocritical worm.  All I have to do is quote Harry Reid at a slightly earlier time.

Or how about simply point out what Harry Reid is actually doing RIGHT NOW while he himself filibusters even as he demagogues filibustering?

Democrats enforce filibuster against their own debt bill
by Stephen Dinan
Published on July 30, 2011

Senate Republicans want a 60-vote threshold for a debt-limit bill to pass the chamber, but it’s actually Democrats who are enforcing the filibuster on their own legislation, insisting on delaying a vote until 1 a.m. Sunday morning.

Republicans offered to let the vote happen Friday night, just minutes after the chamber voted to halt a House Republican bill. All sides expect Democrats’ bill will fail too, and the GOP said senators might as well kill both at the same time so that negotiations could move on to a compromise.

“We would be happy to have that vote tonight,” Sen. Mitch McConnell, Republicans’ leader, offered.

But Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid objected, even though the vote would occur on his own bill. He instead said the chamber would have to run out the full procedural clock, which means a vote in the early hours Sunday morning.

He said he would be willing to move up the vote if Republicans didn’t insist on a 60-vote threshold, which has become traditional for big, controversial items to pass the Senate. But the GOP held firm on that demand, so Mr. Reid said he would insist on the full process, which he said would show the country that Republicans were being obstructionist.

“There is now another filibuster. That’s what this is. It’s a filibuster to stop us from moving forward,” he said.

Mr. Reid complained that if the House had been held to the same super majority rules the Senate often operates under, Republicans’ proposal never would have passed over there earlier in the day….

I will always wonder how Democrats’ skulls don’t literally explode from trying to contain all the massive hypocritical contradictions that so quintessentially define them.

Then there’s something that I actually didn’t realize: the so-called “Boehner plan” was actually a compromise between Republican leaders, Harry Reid and Barack Obama.  Until Democrats cut and ran and pulled out the rug from their own damned compromise:

CR Editorial Note: Sen. Reid, aka “Quirog of Greazidom” had already worked out the House plan in a compromise with Boehner that blew up the House and the Tea Party as many must have heard today. In other words, this was the negotiated plan that Reid worked out and then promptly voted to table as dead on arrival when it finally arrived in the Senate.
 
 Why did Reid table his own compromised plan?

Enter Barack Hussein Obama, who read Reid the riot act after his smary talk on compromise and needing to “get something done.”
 
You see, a compromise would totally go against Obama’s Cloward-Piven plan to bring everything crashing down around America.
 
That story line is becoming more and more convincing as more facts are unearthed.

Boehner didn’t get ONE single Democrat vote (fact: he got FIVE Democrat votes for the MUCH more conservative cut, cap and balance bill that Senate Democrats trivialized, demonized and tabled) for this compromise plan due to the hard-core partisianship of the Democrats.  Boehner stuck his neck out a mile to compromise with Democrats and his reward was a Democrat chopping block.  Because Boehner couldn’t get any Democrat support for his compromise bill, he had no choice but to “conservative-it-up” to get enough Republicans to pass it.

This entire debt ceiling fiasco is quintessential Democrat hypocrisy.

In demonizing George Bush and then voting “NO” on a debt ceiling increase, Barack Obama lectured:

“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure,” he said. “It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit.”

And since we were talking about the personal dishonesty and hypocrisy of Harry Reid, what did Harry Reid say when Bush was president and he was the same vile piece of rotten filth Senator he is now?

REID: “If my Republican friends believe that increasing our debt by almost $800 billion today and more than $3 trillion over the last five years is the right thing to do, they should be upfront about it. They should explain why they think more debt is good for the economy.

How can the Republican majority in this Congress explain to their constituents that trillions of dollars in new debt is good for our economy? How can they explain that they think it’s fair to force our children, our grandchildren, our great grandchildren to finance this debt through higher taxes. That’s what it will have to be. Why is it right to increase our nation’s dependence on foreign creditors?

They should explain this. Maybe they can convince the public they’re right. I doubt it. Because most Americans know that increasing debt is the last thing we should be doing. After all, I repeat, the Baby Boomers are about to retire. Under the circumstances, any credible economist would tell you we should be reducing debt, not increasing it. Democrats won’t be making argument to supper this legalization, which will weaken our country.”

WHY DON’T YOU ANSWER YOUR OWN DEMAGOGIC QUESTIONS NOW, HARRY REID?!?!?!

Republicans are standing firm for a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution which would require both Republican and Democrat administration and Congress ALIKE to spend within their means.  And Democrats – who constantly deceitfully TALK about cutting spending and having balanced budgets – are willing to fight to the death to avoid allowing EITHER.

Democrats are actually opposing a plan that would entail just a one percent spending cut a year for six yearsJUST ONE PERCENT!!!  So you can rest assurred that everything they say about cuts is nothing more than a lie, and all their bills that claim to “cut” are smoke-and-mirrors lies that rely on bogus premises and meaningless rhetoric and non-binding resolutions and promises of future cuts that future Congresses are in no way bound to uphold.

Meanwhile, the United States is borrowing 43 cents out of every single dollar that it spends.  And Democrats refuse to do anything to even slow it down.

Medicare is going to go bankrupt in less than five years.  And Democrats refuse to do anything other than lie and demagogue and demonize to stop that from happening.  They will not cut spending and make it possible to extend the life of these programs in any way, shape or form.  Meanwhile, they just outright lie about the Republican agenda.

The Democrats are dishonest by definition at this point. The entire party is the party of “God damn America,” the party of hell.

Obama Regime Illegitimately Pressuring Private Rating Agencies To Endorse Reid Plan

July 30, 2011

First there was the fact that Harry Reid, the Democrat Party and then the mainstream media falsely concocted a bogus “fact” that Standard & Poors favored Harry Reid’s so-called “plan.”  It was not true.  Which is to say it was a lie:

Now we find out that Obama is pressuring the rating agencies to say they prefer the Reid plan whether they actually do or not:

White House Prodding Rating Agencies to Endorse Reid Plan: Report
By editor Jul 27, 2011, 1:12 PM Author’s Website 

FOX Business Network’s Charlie Gasparino reports that “the White House is trying to prod the rating agencies to accept the Reid plan, which gives them political cover,” while saying “Boehner’s plan creates political uncertainty.” Excerpts from the report are below, courtesy of Fox Business Network.
 
On rating agencies being pressured by the White House to endorse a budget plan:
 “Sources close to the rating agencies are saying that the White House is trying to get the rating agencies to endorse a certain plan. The White House is trying to prod the agencies to accept the Reid plan, which gives them political cover.  They’re trying to say Boehner’s plan creates political uncertainty in the market because it’s two increases.”

These people do not want what is best for America.  They don’t care about the rules, or about what’s right and what’s wrong.  Obama and his White House and his Democrat Party are dishonest to the cores of their cockroach souls and they will do ANYTHING to get what they want.

And, as we see above, that includes both lying and cheating.

See more on the video report on the Obama regime illegitimately pressuring rating agencies here.

I Support John Boehner’s Plan. Here’s Why.

July 28, 2011

Obama recently demagogued Republicans by asking, “Can they say yes to anything?”

And to put it terms that your brainwashed partisan ideologues will understand, Barry Hussein, “Yes we can!”

We said yes to the Ryan budget.  In fact we passed it.  Unlike Democrats, who have not passed any kind of budget at all in something like 818 days.

We also said yes to the cut, cap and balance bill.  We passed that, too.  And Harry Reid refused to even allow it to come up for a vote, much less debate it.

Meanwhile, Democrats have not come up with any plan at all, aside from the Harry Reid plan that just came out a couple of days ago and which is 99% smoke and mirros, 1% “plan.”  You also see in that article that John Boehner was willing to back an agreement that he had with Obama – and that OBAMA POISONED IT.

Boehner had agreed to a deal that would have involved $800 billion in “revenue” (i.e. TAXES).  And then Obama demanded yet another $40o billion.  The New York Times demonstrated just how chock full of chutzpah liberals are in saying (In an article entitled “The Party That Can’t Say Yes“):

“So, on the eve of economic calamity, the Republicans killed an overly generous deal largely over a paltry $400 billion in deductions.”

Number one, anybody who thinks $400 billion is “paltry” is psychologically and morally insane – and there is no point trying to negotiate with the insane.  Number two, if $400 billion is indeed “paltry,” then surely Obama and the Democrats would have no problem agreeing to the same deal with “revenues” of $400 billion rather than $800 billion.  It’s only a “paltry” difference, after all.  Both points reveal that these liberals are dishonest and they are in fact sick.

I would submit that we are not negotiating with Democrats in this fight.  They are utterly deceitful and not fit negotiating partners.  We are trying to win the American people and get them on our side for 2012.

That matters far more than any deal we agree to now.

The media are dishonest in their presentation of the 1995 budget impasse, just as they are dishonest in everything else.  The elections of 1996 wasn’t so bad for Republicans.  They lost a few seats in the House, but still retained control of that body.  And they actually GAINED two seats in the Senate which further solidified their control.  Bill Clinton was also forced to say, “The era of big government is over.”  And the Republican Congress ultimately forced a balanced budget (which the incredibly cynical and dishonest media gave Clinton total credit for).  A good argument can be made that the balanced budgets that we had for a few years in the late 90s was entirely due to the pressure that the Republicans had applied in 1995.

But now aint then.

I would argue that the American people have become worse rather than better since 1995.  As my major prima facia example, would this country have elected a Barack Obama in 1995?  I don’t think there’s any chance.  And it’s not Obama being black that would have destroyed his chances; it’s Obama being a socialist who had spent over 20 years in a racist, Marxist and anti-American “church” with a vile and twisted man like Jeremiah Wright as his “spiritual mentor.”  And any conservative who is going to place their trust in the wisdom or goodness of the American people must deal with the sad reality that the American people elected a genuinely evil and foolish man to be their leader in 2008.

My own trust in the American people is quite limited.  The Democrat Party tells demonstrable lies.  The mainstream media propaganda machine packages those lies.  And then ignorant and often stupid people consume them as “facts.”  We’re in trouble because we’re succombing to our own rapidly increasing moral stupidity.

Let me say more about that right now.

In a fair and legitimate contest, if the American people were presented with two competing ideologies, agendas and plans, I still believe that the American people would choose the more noble path.  But that is not what is happening here.  Instead, Obama and the Democrats are not bothering to present a meaningful plan of their own which would expose their true nature and intentions to the people; rather, they are sitting back and demaoguing and demonizing the Republicans as they try to lead in the leadership vaccum created by failed leader Obama.

And up to this point, that tactic – as vile and despicable as it is – has actually been working.  The American people are actually turning against the Republicans and taking their doses of poison that the biased and dishonest media keep feeding them.  The media is simply routinely lying.

Obama is squarely to blame for this crisis and any disaster that ensues from it.  He has utterly failed to lead.  He has presented no plan.  He has fearmongered this situation into a genuine crisis.  It is because of Obama and his top officials constantly using the language of “default” that the credit rating agencies now feel compelled to lower our AAA rating.  Anyone who takes the time to learn finds that:

A senior banking official told FOX Business that administration officials have provided guidance to them that even though a default is off the table, a downgrade “is a real possibility for no other reason than S&P and Moody’s have to cover (themselves) since they’ve [that's Obama and Geithner] been speaking out on the debt cap so much.”

And Obama has revealed himself to be the worst possible form of demagogue.  Even as he has constantly fearmongered this situation and constantly predicted doom to the public, he has been privately aggreeing with what Republicans have REPEATEDLY said that the United States would continue to pay its debts.

Now, if you have total confidence in the wisdom and goodness of the American people, I can understand why you believe they will see through this.

I simply no longer do.  Because Obama played the same game with his terrible stimulus boondoggle; he played the same game with ObamaCare; and he has played the same game with virtually everything else he has done.  And assuming the American people are stupid and selfish has worked for him since they proved that to be true by voting for him in the first place.

So the real battle here isn’t “who’s more conservative?”  It’s more about, “What’s the most conservative plan that will win the day?”  Charles Krauthammer has said we should vote for THE most conservative candidate or plan that has a reasonable chance to win.  And I agree with that; otherwise the “perfect” becomes the enemy of the good.  And the conservative agenda goes nowhere.

The rub is that we often don’t know the answer to the question, “Who is the most conservative candidate who has a reasonable chance of winning?” or “What is the most conservative plan that can actually pass?”

It’s easy to throw up a Christine O’Donnell or a Sharon Angle.  You might dismiss them as “establishment conservatives,” but your Charles Krauthammers and your Karl Roves warned and predicted that they would lose badly and that in losing these races we would lose the United States Senate when we could have won it with more electable candidates.  I also understand that it is equally easy to throw up your hands as a conservative and point out that if we don’t have good candidates who will actually be conservative, there’s not much point in their winning in the first place.  I truly see both sides here – as I imagine you do.

Damn my lack of omniscience!

Is there any way out of this dilemma for ordinary conservatives and for conservative politicians alike?

I think there’s only one: trust your leadership and rally behind them.

If John Boehner isn’t “conservative” enough, he should have been replaced.  But as it is, he’s what we’ve got; he’s who we have.  And we either follow his lead or we disintergrate into a bunch of factions that cannot possibly succeed in anything.

Rep. Allen West (whom I really like, fwiw) publicly expressed an attitude that I share.  He basically said that as a soldier you get behind your leaders’ plan and then you fight.

Even Rep. Allen West (R., Fla.), a freshman and tea-party favorite, told National Review Online that while the plan was a “75 to 80 percent solution,” it was something he could ultimately support. “You know, son, one thing they tell you in the military — if you sit around and wait to come up with the 100 percent plan, then the enemy has probably already attacked you,” he said.

The House has been leading.  If you want conservative principles, there is simply nowhere else you can go if you want to have any chance of actually passing anything.

Speaker John Boehner is our General Eisenhower.  If a bunch of officers had said, “I don’t like Ike’s plan; I’m going to hold out for a better one,” we would be speaking German right now.

When we are in a battle, what we really need most is unity.  And that’s why I support my Republican House leadership through this fight.

For the record, I’m not saying Republicans should “compromise” with Democrats.  I find Democrats utterly untrustworthy and in fact despicable; and you can’t “compromise” with vermin.  What I AM saying is that Republicans should compromise with their own Republican leadership.

Benjamin Franklin famously said, “We must, indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately.”  And Abraham Lincoln said even more famously, “A house divided against itself cannot stand.”  That idea is the core of my argument for supporting Speaker John Boehner.

I would rather have the cut, cap and balance plan than the one that Boehner is working on now.  For the record, Speaker Boehner HIMSELF has repeatedly stated that HE would rather have the cut, cap and balance plan too.  But he is looking at the situation, at the political landscape, at details that you and I don’t possess, and as our field commander he is saying that we need to pass a plan that will better position the Republican Party in this fight from the charge of being “hyper-partisan” or “unreasonable.”

And I am with my general in this fight.

For the record, had John Boehner decided that the cut, cap and balance plan was the hill to fight and die on, I would have been with him on that, too.

If the Tea Party conservative Republicans who oppose the Boehner plan successfully voted him out of his Speakership and replaced him, I would back that Tea Party conservative Speaker of the House.

But that isn’t what we’ve got.  We’ve got Speaker of the House John Boehner, and our Speaker believes we need to get behind a plan that he acknowledges is less than perfect, but which he also says is our best chance of moving forward:

“Listen, it’s time to do what is doable, and this bill isn’t perfect. … That’s what happens when you have a Democrat-controlled Senate and a Democrat in the white House. This bill was agreed to by the bipartisan Senate leadership, and we believe we can get this on the president’s desk, and make it law. Listen, we’re not going to give him a $2.5 trillion blank check that lets him continue his spending binge through the next election. That’s not going to happen.”

I want the most conservative bill that has a chance of advancing or at least has the best chance of putting the Democrats in a political hole.  And I believe that we need to trust the political instincts of our leadership to get us to that point.

Speaker Boehner is saying, “Get your ass in line.”  And until this fight is over, I believe we should be saying, “Yes, sir!”  Because the alternative is to splinter and divide into a bunch of factions that cannot accomplish anything.

Update: Boehner is arguing – legitimately – that there is going to be a debt deal one way or another.  And if his play doesn’t work now, he will have no choice but to assemble a coalition of Democrats and moderate Republicans to pass the Reid bill in the Senate.  If Boehner’s bill passes, that bill will have to be considered in any negotiation; if it fails, the House Republicans and the conservative agenda will have been become meaningless because it will be bypassed.  There is simply too much at stake to play chicken, in my opinion.  We’ve lost 500 points in the DOW already in just the first 4 days of the week BEFORE the deadline.  August 2 will be a bloodbath.

If you believe that defeating John Boehner and fracturing the Republican House will lead to some kind of conservative agenda victory, you should be able to do something Obama hasn’t been able to come up with: a plan for how that will happen.  If the markets collapse, a moderate coalition will form, pass something that is far worse than Boehner’s plan, and the House Republican leadership will be utterly broken with nearly a year and a half to go before the 2012 election.

John Boehner correctly recognizes that the House is one-half of one-third of our federal government; you simply cannot dictate the government from that foundation.  It is simply lunacy at this point for a tiny minority of 26 Republicans to torpedo their party in a fanatic demand that they get 1,000% of everything they want.  As it stands, Barack Obama, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are praying that the Boehner bill fails.  Why on earth would Michelle Bachmann want to be the answer to these liberals’ prayers???

The US economy is quite probably the most vulnerable it has ever been in the history of the republic.  Nobody knows what will happen in the coming weeks if we do not arrive at some kind of deal.  The Boehner bill is the best solution possible for the nation, for the conservative agenda and for the Republican Party.


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