If Rep. Anthony Weiner Doesn’t Resign, It Is Proof Positive That Democrats AS A PARTY Are Slime

As we speak, Anthony Weiner is standing at a podium and acknowledging that he is a liar and that all the sexual garbage is true and all of his previous accusations of a criminal hacker are false.

The funny thing is that something similar – not NEARLY as despicable, but in a couple of ways similar – just happened to a Republican.  His name was Chris Lee.  And he resigned.  He resigned so fast it was unreal.  And yet that didn’t stop the Democrats and the media that serves as their propagandists from re-using the infamous photo over and over.

Democrats just won the special election for his district.  They were triumphant and exhilerated.  It was a great victory for them.  They flat-out mocked Republicans.

If they have any integrity as a party, they will take the dose of their own medicine.

Anthony Weiner made Chris Lee look like a saint.  Not only does he have the same barechested photos exposed that Lee had, but there are numerous women who have come forward stating that he has engaged them in sexually explicit dialogue.  One woman was only 21.  Another has some 200 messages or “tweets” from Weiner.  Weiner also used the official line from his office (official resources alert) to have phone sex with a woman for 30 minutes.  And if Weiner hasn’t actually committed physical sexual infidelity, it was only because he is a pathetic little creep, rather than from any lack of repeatedly trying.

But Democrats are above that, in the contemptible sense that they feel they are above the law and above any standard of integrity.

Chris Lee, unlike Anthony Weiner, never came out and angrily denied what was in fact true.  He never made false accusations claiming someone had committed a crime against him.  Unlike Weiner, he was only in fact caught with a SINGLE inappropriate photo.  But like Weiner, Chris Lee is a married man.  He had violated the standards of his party and his ethics.  He did the right thing and resigned.

Nancy Pelosi said she was going to drain the swamp.  She never even came close to doing so.  We’ve seen her Democrat minions keeping bribe money in their freezers and stay in office until voted out by the people rather than kicked out by the Democrats; we’ve seen powerful chairmen of committees engaged in gross fraud staying in office.  Now we’re seeing the sickest thing of all – Weinergate.

Republicans have a superior moral platform.  They are superior human beings.  They hold themselves and one another to a higher ethical standard.

If Rep. Anthony Weiner does NOT resign, the above statement will be accompanied with the grossest form of documented proof.

Anthony Weiner stood up in front of the American people and lied to them.  He proved that he is not worthy of any trust whatsoever.

He needs to resign.  And the Democrat Party has an obligation to do EVERYTHING within its power to ensure that he either resigns or is defeated.  Otherwise, the message is this: the Democrats are the party of cockroaches.  If you want to elect human beings with human values, elect REPUBLICANS.

If the media is in any way, shape or form honest, they will continue to pound Anthony Weiner and the entire Democrat Party with “Weinergate” until Weiner leaves office in disgrace.  Nothing else should matter until this man is gone.  That is how they have treated numerous Republicans scandals.

For the record, the hated and reviled Andrew Breitbart just demonstrated that he is more honest than the entire Democrat Party.  And additionally for the record, just previous to Anthonty Weiner admitting that he was a proven liar and fraud, Breitbart had the decency to point out that he actually had in his possession a photo (apparently of Weiner naked which revealed his face) that he didn’t want to release for the sake of Weiner’s family unless Weiner continued to attack him and force him to do so.

Also for the record, read the Ann Coulter article here demonstrating how the most socialist of socialists have been the worst male chauvenist pigs in history.  And then add “Anthony Weiner” to the list of leftwing pigs.

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25 Responses to “If Rep. Anthony Weiner Doesn’t Resign, It Is Proof Positive That Democrats AS A PARTY Are Slime”

  1. caheidelberger Says:

    Pelosi calls for Ethics Investigation of Weiner: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/164987-pelosi-calls-for-ethics-investigation-of-weiner-conduct

  2. camilampert@aol.com Says:

    Weiner should take his Weiner and resign.

  3. Jason Says:

    Chris Lee claimed his account was also hacked. This turned out to be a lie he had to clarify when it became clear that it was a lie. I am not justifying Weiner here. He should resign as well. Let’s just get the facts straight here about a Republican. He tried to cheat on his wife, got caught, refused to be honest and forthright about at first, then resigned when it was clear he had to. There is no moral superiority here. Moral superiority would be not doing the immoral act on the first place.

    Wiener should resign immediately. If he won’t, his party should all but force him. My guess is that is what happened to Lee.

  4. Michael Eden Says:

    All I know is that Chris Lee resigned the VERY DAY the story broke.

    Most people – even most JOURNALISTS – found out about the story AFTER Rep. Lee resigned. It was that quick.

    And when he left and the Dems won his seat, you know how they crowed.

    If the Dems force him out and he goes out, then I’ll agree with you that there is no “moral superiority.” But consider that as we speak, we’ve got Barney Frank (who also was busted having sex with page boys, btw) involved in a Fannie Mae scandal involving a lover up to his eyeballs. And we’ve got Charlie Rangel still doing fine after getting caught red-handed cheating on his taxes.

    All I want is 1) for Democrats to resign the way Republicans do when they get busted; and 2) the news media is as dogged in hounding dirty Democrats out of office as they are with Republicans.

  5. Michael Eden Says:

    caheidelberger,

    We’ll see how the Democrats REALLY play this as they either strip Weiner of everything and force him out or not.

    Pelosi has no power to dictate whether or not there will be an investigation now. It’s just political posturing.

    Pelosi said she’d “drain the swamp.” But, for example, she didn’t bother to investigate Charlie Rangel for basically two years plus until she knew the GOP would retake the House.

  6. HL Says:

    Wrote Speaker Boehner and my Rep last night demanding they force this PERVERT to RESIGN.
    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! Weiner is absolutly unfit to serve the USA.

  7. Jason Says:

    I don’t trust Pelosi to do anything meaningful. She is the same person who said the era of big government is over.

     My problem is in defining moral superiority. This blog implies at least on a subconscious level that as long as you resign quickly, one is morally superior. Why not hold our politicians to a higher standard?

    There is a long list of politicians on both sides who have committed heinous moral acts. There is no need to try to list them.  We can add Mark Foley, Eliot Spitzer, and Mark Sanford to the list, and we have only begun to scratch the surface.  All of them were wrong like Barney Frank, Charlie Rangel and many more.

    Moral superiority should be defined by not doing the act, not by admitting it and quickly resigning. 

  8. Robbie Says:

    yeah great stretch is going to investigate weiner… she also investigate charlie rangel and what a joke that was!

  9. Michael Eden Says:

    And, as I said yesterday either on a comment to eitehr this article or another, Pelosi didn’t bother to even START that investigation until it was OBVIOUS that Republicans would re-take Congress. She knew she had to treat him with kid gloves before Republicans came in with brass knuckles.

  10. Michael Eden Says:

    Jason,

    The problem with your view is that people are human and they fail.

    How do you regard that failure? Should you overlook it? Should you ignore it?

    Would THAT work out in our criminal justice system?

    Moral superiority comes from holding wrondoing ACCOUNTABLE and making sure there is a price to pay for it. Because people WILL do wrong – and the only way to deal with that reality is to PUNISH it.

    A man like Anthony Weiner is a blight to his district, to his voters and to his party. The honorable thing for him to do is resign.

    When Chris Lee was caught in circumstances that are a TINY FRACTION of what Weiner has done, his leadership told him to resign THAT DAY. And he is gone because Republicans said “We will not stand for this!”

    If Democrats don’t do the same, then in point of fact Democrats DO stand for Anthony Weiner’s behavior.

    By the way, Elliot Spitzer is a DEMOCRAT. You put him in the wrong column. And the two Republicans you name RESIGNED.

  11. Michael Eden Says:

    YOU GO GIRL!!!

    I haven’t done that over this issue. You give me incentive to add my voice.

    The last thing we need is creeps like Weiner running our lives.

  12. Jason Says:

    Michael, you missed my point. I said more than once Weiner should resign immediately and I also said I don’t think Pelosi will do anything about this. Her track record is clear.

    Moral superiority should come from our actions first, not how we handle others. If we are not too careful, we cross the line into judgement.

    I just don’t like it when we want to hold up those caught in scandalous acts as moral because the resign in an expedient manner. I prefer to hold up the honest politicians as moral instead. I am sure there are plenty to be found on both sides. Moral superiority is not just a republican concept.

    Sorry about Spitzer. If you would like I could name you many other republican politicians who have done immoral acts.

  13. Anonymous Says:

    I don’t think your argument holds water.

    First of all, this sort of thing happens with far more frequency with Republican congressmen than Democratic congressmen. I mean, there’s Chris Lee, Mark Foley, Larry Craig, John Ensign, David Vitter… the list goes on. If anything, the anecdotal evidence shows that Republicans are of lower moral character than Dems.

    Second of all, there’s an element of hypocrisy with it with Republicans that makes it more important that they resign. They pound the table about family values… then it comes out they are asking their mistress and best friend’s wife to marry them during the national prayer breakfast (John Ensign), or they’re railing about gays being the surge of of the universe, only for it to come out that they’re soliciting sex with other men (Larry Craig, Chris Lee, Mark Foley). When a guy like Weiner does it, at least he didn’t campaign on a marital fidelity platform. (And by the way, what is it with Rebpulicans, and their infatuation for secretly soliciting sex from other men? Jeez, come out of the closet already.)

    Third, Republicans don’t always resign so fast. Sen. Ensign nailed his buddy’s wife and paid to cover it up, and he refused to resign for months, until on the eve of his ethics committee testimony. Sen. Craig pled guilty to soliciting blow jobs from men in a dingy airport bathroom — gross! — and he defiantly refused to resign for months and months. Foley resigned fast, but that was gross too, dozens of young boys coming foward with lurid text messages from the family values republican… eeew. And yes, Chris Lee resigned quick, but it quickly became apparent why, when it came out that he also was soliciting multiple transgender “women” for sex. Nasty! Article here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/25/chris-lee-transgender-women-craigslist_n_828476.html.

    Fourth, lets not pretend the Republicans always resign anyway. Married GOP Sen. David Vitter admitted seeing prostitutes back in 2007… yet he stayed on, and even was re-elected. Does that mean the GOP as a party is “slime”? Heck, some are even running for President, like Newt Gingrich, who cheated on and dumped his wife because she was battling cancer. What a douche.

    Nice try, though.

  14. Michael Eden Says:

    First of all, this sort of thing happens with far more frequency with Republican congressmen than Democratic congressmen

    Are you insane?

    John F. Kennedy, Bill Clinton, Gary Hart, John Edwards and Franklin Roosevelt. AND THAT’S JUST THE PRESIDENTS OR SIGNIFICANT PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY CONTENDERS WITH DOCUMENTED SEX SCANDALS.

    Bill Clinton is a MULTIPLE offender, who not only is INFAMOUS for his semen on a young woman’s dress, but is a serial groper and quite probably a RAPIST. Here are some of his documented victims: Genevieve Flowers, Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey and of course the raped Juanita Broaddrick.

    We’re not just talking “congressmen.” The MOST SIGNIFICANT AND POWERFUL DEMOCRATS ARE DOCUMENTED MORAL SLIME.

    Here is a list I found quickly that you would have to beat. Warning: it’s pretty damn long. http://byteboy.wordpress.com/category/democratic-scandals/

    That said, you’re argument that Republicans aspire to superior human values whilest you and your fellow Democrats live like cockroaches is interesting. Since Democrats praise filth and disgust and perversion, they should feel free to wallow in it without shame.

    If you want America to be a degenerate banana republic, elect the Democrats who stand for it and who are trying to make it happen. If you have even the slightest belief in God and any kind of moral decency whatsoever, vote for Republicans. Your argument is fine with me.

    Republicans don’t ALWAYS resign, it is true. But they usually do. And that is because there is a party that won’t stand for this crap. The Democrats COULD do that; but again, looking at who they let be their presidents, I’ll be very surprised if it ever happens.

    For the record, I have publicly repudiated Newt Gingrich, so don’t think that one matters. And as for that, Newt Gingrich looks like a SAINT compared to John Edwards – who not only cheated on his dying wife, but is waiting for a jail cell for using campaign money for pay-offs.

    As for your last two points, I’ve got an article coming out tomorrow that addresses them rather nicely, and I’ll try to remember to link this comment to it.

  15. Michael Eden Says:

    Jason,

    If you think that “judgment” means not knowing right from wrong, or not understanding what sin is even after the Bible tells us in great detail, then I feel sorry for you.

    If we had that attitude, we couldn’t put anybody in prison. We’d be “judging” those people – and after all, who are WE to judge?

    I also find it interesting how you’re “judging” me right now; you’re asserting that what I’m saying is wrong. Isn’t that judgmental of you?

    We should hold our leaders accountable. Their offices aren’t a RIGHT; they are a privilege – and that privilege should be taken away from those who prove themselves unworthy of their offices.

    You misrepresent what I am saying in insinuating that I hold up those who resign as “moral.” I most certainly do NOT. I hold the people who HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE AND DEMAND THEY RESIGN as moral. They are standing up for what is right and fighting against what is wrong.

    Instead of lists of politicians, whey not just stick with those who have been presidents or at least had a significant chance of ever BEING president?

    I wrote this just a moment ago to someone else; it should suffice for you as well:

    John F. Kennedy, Bill Clinton, Gary Hart, John Edwards and of course FDR. AND THAT’S JUST THE PRESIDENTS OR SIGNIFICANT PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY CONTENDERS WITH DOCUMENTED SEX SCANDALS. I could add guys like Jesse Jackson, but he never had a chance at winning.

    Bill Clinton is a MULTIPLE offender, who not only is INFAMOUS for his semen on a young woman’s dress, but is a serial groper and quite probably a RAPIST http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=19242 . Here are some of his documented victims: Genevieve Flowers, Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey and of course the raped Juanita Broaddrick.

    We’re not just talking “congressmen.” The MOST SIGNIFICANT AND POWERFUL DEMOCRATS ARE DOCUMENTED MORAL SLIME.

    As I said to that fellow, I’ve got an article coming out tomorrow morning that puts the finger pointing into perspective.

    The bottom line for the moment is that when Republican Chris Lee had pics with his shirt off, CURRENT Republican leader Boehner demanded his resignation THAT DAY. And he got it.

    So where’s Nancy?

  16. Truth Unites... and Divides Says:

    “Second of all, there’s an element of hypocrisy with it with Republicans that makes it more important that they resign.”

    Read this:

    Why the Hypocrisy Defense is political suicide for liberalism.

  17. Anonymous Says:

    JFK? FDR? You seriously have to dig that far into history, 70+ years, to come up with examples? That’s just silly. You come up with ONE guy from the past 15 years besides Weiner (Edwards).

    How about we look at just the past few years. And lets stick to documented facts, not innuendo. In the Senate GOP, we have prostitute-frequenting David Vitter (wouldn’t resign), best-friend’s-wife-screwing John Ensign (wouldn’t resign for 2 years, until he faced Senate expulsion), and convicted-gay-sex-solicitor Larry Craig (wouldn’t resign). This is the party of the moral high ground? Hahaha! How many Dem senators can you name from the same period with equivalent failings? What a morally dysfunctional party.

    And in the House, you have underage-boy-soliciting Mark Foley (whose antics the GOP House leadership desparately tried to cover up, for months and months), you have that gay-tickling-guy Rep. Massa, you have the transvestite-soliciting Chris Lee… and that’s just from memory. More slimy people. At most Weiner offsets one of those.

    Oh, and that’s quite a stable of governors you GOP guys came up with. Sanford flies to Argentina to bone his mistress, refuses to resign. Schwartzeneggar bones his maid and knocks her up, refuses to resign (by hiding it for a decade). Oh yeah, that’s a party to be pround of right there. Family values.

    Presidential candidates? What a great guy McCain was, eh? Gets back from Vietnam to find his wife had been disfigured in an accident, so he cheats on her ultimately divorces her, to marry a rich girl 18 years younger. Now there’s some family values for me to teach my kid! And for ’2012? How many times has Trump been married? How many wives has Gingrich been through? That’s great that you criticized him, but it doesn’t undo what he did. By the way, have the GOP Mormon candidates (Romney, Huntsman) publicly denounced polygamy? I guess its not cheating if your Christian religion says you’re allowed to cheat on your wife with another woman if you can say she’s your wife too, right? What a sordid lot you guys are rolling out. Criticize Obama’s policies, but his credentials as a family man are unimpeachable, like his next closest contender in ’08, Hillary.

    Sure the Dems have some bad apples. Weiner, Edwards, and going back a bit there’s the NJ governor who cheated. Its not like the GOP has the market cornered on sordid sexual depravity (though they’re getting there). But for every guy you name, I can name 3. The bottom line is that in recent years, the Republican party is the party of sexual moral depravity, closet homosexuality while simultaneously gay-bashing, and serial infidelity.

    A vote for a Republican is a tacit endorsement of the GOP’s penchant for engaging in slimy underhanded sexually filthy and despicable conduct, and more broadly is a vote for the continued moral degradation of America.

  18. Anonymous Says:

    Putting aside the GOP’s sordid recent sexual past, the defense of their hypocrisy is especially stunning.

    To use a Dem example, Spitzer gets busted for complicity in a prostitution ring. But its not just that. He also had publicly railed against such prostituion agencies while AG of NY, trying to shut them down. If he had been arguing for decriminalization of prostitution, at least he’d have been somewhat consistent. Point being that a bad act can become worse if it reflects a dishonesty about a politician’s political positions — e.g., if it shows that he doesn’t practice what he preaches, and is therefore defective as a messenger.

    So, for example, a guy like Gov. McGreevy preached tolerance toward gays, and defended their lifestyle as a legitimate one. That doesn’t excuse him cheating on his wife, but does absolve him of hypocrisy in engaging in gay sex.

    By contrast, not only is there a disturbingly high tendency of GOP politicians to engage in lewd homosexual solicitation (Sen. Craig, Rep. Lee, Rep. Foley, etc etc), suggesting a correlation between homosexuality and conservatism, but these same people are the same ones who are bashing gays as being fundamentally immoral. There’s a special place in hell waiting for them.

    That’s to say nothing of the “family values” politicians who parade their wife around and demand to be voted into office based on their supposed loyalty and fidelity to family and Christian values, only to be exposed as the contrary — often while the GOP leadership enables it (e.g. Rep Foley) or endorses the resulting refusal to resign (e.g. Gov. Sanford, Sen Vitter, etc etc etc).

    Of course, the opposite of these anti-gay “family values” is not, as some would have it, amorality — or as Michael Eden puts it, “filth” and “perversion.” Other, saner folks would call it tolerance, and rejection of false moral absolutism. If you think that giving equal rights to gay people is “filth”, then so be it, but most rational, educated people believe it is actually quite an enlightened point of view. Likewise, since “family values” is code for Christianity, I would suggest that good people may be found in many religions, and we need not damn all non-Christians as bad people. Indeed, there are many fine texts, both philosophical and biblical, that provide the foundations for a moral code, that aren’t titled “Bible.” You should read them sometime. Many of them espouse virtues that would teach GOP types to be more accepting of others, and less sanctimonious. You should spend some time talking to these folks and reading what they read, you all might learn something.

  19. Jason Says:

    I promise this will be the last time I write here. I have better things to do in my life than to spend time arguing with someone I don’t know. I want to clear things up because you have missed my point a few times and wrongly assumed others. Number one, I said twice that Wiener should resign. I also said that if he does not do so, Pelosi or some other powerful Democrat should make him. I also said twice that I do not expect Pelosi to ask wiener to resign.

    You wondered the following:

    “How do you regard that failure? Should you overlook it? Should you ignore it?
    Would THAT work out in our criminal justice system?”

    Since I stated that Wiener should resign or be forced to resign twice, I feel I have adequately answered that question.

    You also say:

    “If you think that ‘judgment’ means not knowing right from wrong, or not understanding what sin is even after the Bible tells us in great detail, then I feel sorry for you.
    If we had that attitude, we couldn’t put anybody in prison. We’d be “judging” those people – and after all, who are WE to judge?”

    I never said that. Those are your words, not mine. There is a difference between what a judge in court does and when people are “judging.” A judge (or jury) takes facts that they have seen and heard and make a decision based upon that, and ONLY upon that. Thus the idea that a man is innocent until proven guilty. Our Constitution is based upon that (4th, 5th, and 6th amendments). Those that are found guilty (like Wiener, there I am saying it again) should pay the price.

    When Jesus said judge not lest ye be judged, he was not against courtroom judges. He was against those who did not have enough information yet felt they could make opinions as if they did not have the information. When I said “[i]f we are not too careful, we cross the line into judgement,” I meant that it was not right to call a whole party slime balls because some of them are slime. Google “republican scandals” and see what comes up. Does that make the whole party a party of slime? I would not say so. Let’s take this further. Are all Christians slime because a few leaders (some at the highest levels) were in some way part of the sex scandal that has rocked the religion? I don’t think so.

    You also say:

    “You misrepresent what I am saying in insinuating that I hold up those who resign as “moral.” I most certainly do NOT. I hold the people who HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE AND DEMAND THEY RESIGN as moral. They are standing up for what is right and fighting against what is wrong.”

    In the original blog, you say:

    “Republicans have a superior moral platform.  They are superior human beings.  They hold themselves and one another to a higher ethical standard.”

    What I don’t like about statements like these-besides the fact that they are opinions represented as facts which have been proven wrong-is that they serve to divide the country. Democrats are just as guilty of making false outlandish statements just to make themselves sound like the better party. We are at a point in our country where we have the most bi-partisan politics ever. Statements like these only help to divide our country even more. Whether or not you agree with John Stewart and his beliefs, he was right in his idea to restore sanity to our political world. There is nothing wrong with having an opinion and disagreeing with them. There is something wrong with believing that one party is morally superior and that another party is slime.

  20. Truth Unites... and Divides Says:

    “There is something wrong with believing that one party is morally superior and that another party is slime.”

    Hi Jason,

    With gentleness and kindness, I think it’s more like the old cliche of picking the “lesser of two evils”. And I think it’s not wrong to identify and clearly state which party is the lesser evil and which party is the greater evil.

    Although I’m a registered Republican, I oftentimes greatly disdain the Republican establishment. I always tell people that my identity is in Christ, first and foremost. I just vote GOP because they have the greatest probability of stopping the horrific evil of abortion, the murder of unborn babies.

    Politics is applied theology.

    Let’s take a look again at your statement: “There is something wrong with believing that one party is morally superior and that another party is slime.”

    So let’s say that one party is Genocidal Nazism. And the other party is today’s GOP. There is nothing wrong with saying that the GOP is morally superior to Genocidal Nazism.

    Further, in that situation I would say that it’s *wrong* for folks to say “There is something wrong with believing that one party is morally superior and that another party is slime.” Because they are hampering and hindering people from making intelligent and wise moral distinctions.

    Pax.

  21. Michael Eden Says:

    Jason, I’ll start with this one:

    You also say:

    “You misrepresent what I am saying in insinuating that I hold up those who resign as “moral.” I most certainly do NOT. I hold the people who HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE AND DEMAND THEY RESIGN as moral. They are standing up for what is right and fighting against what is wrong.”

    In the original blog, you say:

    “Republicans have a superior moral platform. They are superior human beings. They hold themselves and one another to a higher ethical standard.”

    Precisely WHERE in the quote from me that you cite do I say “Republicans who screw up and then resign” are the superior moral beings???

    Like I said. You misrepresent me. And then you spend the rest of your time whining.

    When I talk about “Republicans being superior human beings and having a superior moral platform, YOU YOURSELF ACKNOWLEDGE IT:

    I want to clear things up because you have missed my point a few times and wrongly assumed others. Number one, I said twice that Wiener should resign. I also said that if he does not do so, Pelosi or some other powerful Democrat should make him. I also said twice that I do not expect Pelosi to ask wiener to resign.

    You see, I DO EXPECT PELOSI TO DEMAND WEINER’S RESIGNATION. Or at least, I WOULD expect it, if Democrats weren’t moral cockroaches. YOU YOURSELF AGREE WITH ME THAT WEINER SHOULD RESIGN. YOU YOURSELF AGRE WITH ME THAT THE DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP SHOULD FORCE HIM TO. AND YOU YOURSELF AGREE THAT DEMOCRATS ARE TOO MORALLY INFERIOR TO DO SO.

    To date, NOT A SINGLE DEMOCRAT HAS CALLED FOR WEINER TO RESIGN. NOT ONE!!!

    [Without changing my comment, I update it to acknowledge that the above was true as of last night. However, today, FINALLY two weeks later, at least a couple of Democrats have come out saying Weiner should resign. For the record, I hope that MORE Democrats chime in and Weiner GOES.]

    Let’s compare Chris Lee to Anthonty Weiner. Lee put out a single photo ONE TIME. And the “morally superior” – you got that right – MORALLY SUPERIOR Republican leadership DEMANDED HIS RESIGNATION THAT DAY. AND THEY GOT IT THAT DAY.

    Which is to say, I don’t even have to offer an argument to establish my position; I merely have to offer your very own words and stated views to demonstrate that Republicans are being morally superior. I don’t refute you; YOU REFUTED YOURSELF!!!

    Btw, when you say this about “judging”:

    When Jesus said judge not lest ye be judged, he was not against courtroom judges. He was against those who did not have enough information yet felt they could make opinions as if they did not have the information

    You butchered what it means to judge hideously. First of all, do I really need to be a judge or a jurist to know WHAT ANTHONY WEINER HAS PUBLICLY ADMITTED??? Seriously? He’s holding the smoking gun and still pulling the trigger at the dead body, but I cannot judge???

    We have the Bible. God told us right from wrong and good from evil. God also created us as His image bearers in the Imago Dei; He literally DESIGNED us to have a moral sense. Only a fool doesn’t use the resources that God gave him.

    When someone is in gross sin, God does not – counter to you – expect us to be moral morons who can’t take a stand. He DEMANDS we recognize sin – and its effects.

    What Jesus is teaching is that we are not to regard ourselves as superior to others – because WE are sinners too. Rather, we are to compare ourselves to God’s righteousness. And the righteousness of God is so perfect and so great that even someone who appears incredibly moral still misses the mark of God’s ultimate righteousness by a country mile.

    And again, if it’s wrong to judge the way you’re arguing, then why are you critizing and judging me? Are you a judge, who had my case before you? Was I on trial, and you were a juror who rendered the verdict based on all the facts?? And here I didn’t even know I was on trial!!!

    Again, I don’t have to refute you: you refute YOURSELF.

    Btw, the title of this article is “If Rep. Anthony Weiner Doesn’t Resign, It Is Proof Positive That Democrats AS A PARTY Are Slime.” What was that first word again? “IF.” If the Democrats force Weiner to resign, then they can help themselves immensely in taking this issue off the table. If they don’t, then what I say stands. New Republican Leader Boehner set the bar with Chris Lee – he said “Resign.” And Lee is gone. Meanwhile, Anthony Weiner has about a billion times more baggage right now, and he’s happy as a clam. We can talk about what happened ten years ago or even last year, and it’s history. John Boehner has been the Majority Leader since January, and he’s setting an example. RIGHT NOW. He won’t stand for this crap. And unfortunately, so is Nancy Pelosi – because she is proving that she WILL.

    P.S. I hope you keep your promise and don’t post back. If you did, you’d be starting a brand new trend: a liberal actually keeping a promise.

  22. Michael Eden Says:

    I think it’s more like the old cliche of picking the “lesser of two evils”. And I think it’s not wrong to identify and clearly state which party is the lesser evil and which party is the greater evil.

    Truth,

    Given that I could have given the wrong idea about referring to the Republicans as “morally superior,” I thought I’d chime in on what you are saying.

    I completely agree with your sentiment which I quoted above. Republicans are the LESSER of two evils.

    If you’ve got two slack-jawed imbeciles, but one is a little bit “smarter,” we can call him the smart one. In that same sense, Republicans are the “morally superior” ones.

    I came out with an article this morning that should help illustrate a little bit more on that score:

    https://startthinkingright.wordpress.com/2011/06/08/why-would-any-decent-american-want-a-bunch-of-weiners-running-our-lives/

    P.S. That was a great analogy you gave to blow Jason’s “There is something wrong with believing that one party is morally superior and that another party is slime” load of garbage right out of the water. And the funniest thing of all is that the left – which comes unglued every time they hear Republicans talk about being the superior party as compared to slime – HAVE BEEN DOING THAT VERY SAME THING TO US FOR FORTY FRIGGING YEARS!!! And then illustrating their attacks with demagogic lies such as the current “Mediscare” slander campaign.

  23. Michael Eden Says:

    You are a dishonest thinker, Anonymous. I can well understand why you’re “anonymous.”

    You refer to “a disturbingly high tendency of GOP politicians to engage in lewd homosexual solicitation” and then cite TWO names followed by “etc. etc.” as though there are just hundreds of these Republicans. When we both know you cited two names because there are basically two names. I won’t say the list of homosexual Republicans is exhausted by those two names, but to refer to “a disturbingly high tendency” is simply deceitful.

    I wrote an article on the subject of Republicans having superior moral values that they don’t always live up to personally and Democrats who have cockroach moral values. I might as well just cite the whole thing:

    Does Gov. Sanford’s Disgrace Prove Conservative Values Hypocritical?

    The left are falling all over themselves to not only damn Republican South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford, but to damn everything he claimed to stand for.

    Just as one among a gazillion examples:

    After Sanford, Let’s End Hypocrisy and Promote Equality

    So Governor Sanford is another family values hypocrite. How many times did he deny privacy rights and marriage equality to others?

    According to OnTheIssues.org, as a Member of Congress, Mark Sanford voted repeatedly against abortion rights; against gay marriage, civil unions, and gay adoptions; and for posting the Ten Commandments. As Governor, he continued those positions.

    Let us express this argument in the following way:

    Premise 1) Mark Sanford preached traditional family values.

    Premise 2) Mark Sanford was discovered to have violated some of the very traditional family values he preached.

    Conclusion: We should end hypocrisy and abandon all traditional family values.

    Well, how about if we apply that argument to another example:

    Premise 1) Al Gore preached it was wrong to have a huge carbon footprint.

    Premise 2) Al Gore was discovered to have a MASSIVE carbon footprint

    Conclusion: We should end to hypocrisy and start pumping trillions of tons of pollutants into the atmosphere, oceans, and rivers.

    I could do the same thing with torturing puppies. Suppose I was a spokesman for PETA, and was subsequently discovered to have kicked a puppy dog. Would anyone but the worst nutjob in the world conclude that we should “end hypocrisy” and abandon a standard against torturing puppies?

    Let me say it clearly: the Democrats’ use of personal hypocrisy on the part of Mark Sanford (or any other member of the Republican Party) as a device to attack traditional family values is fundamentally irrational. It is an amoral rhetorical ploy, and nothing else.

    Mark Sanford is a hypocrite. But that doesn’t in any way prove that the values he claimed to stand for are hypocritical.

    Should we condemn Governor Sanford for his personal hypocrisy? Sure. Just as we should condemn Al Gore for his personal hypocrisy. Both Mark Sanford and Al Gore have been exposed as being terrible proponents for their publicly-held views. But to then argue that, since Al Gore is a pathetic environmentalist in his personal life, we should therefore abandon all environmentalism and pollute as much as we might like is simply fallacious.

    You can go through a directory of logical fallacies and check off about every one: Genetic fallacy; Question begging; Affirming the consequent.; Ad populum; Ad hominem; False cause; Non sequitur; Loaded language; Post hoc, ergo propter hoc; Straw man; Suppressed evidence. Every one of these fallacies and more are being used to advance the “Governor Sanford is a hypocrite, so lets throw out traditional values” thesis.

    Believe it or not, there are actually people who hold to traditional family values who don’t violate their marriage vows. Just as their are actually people who hold to liberal environmentalist values who don’t rack up 221,000 kilowatt hours in one year while flying around in an emissions-spewing private jet and cruising around in a massive luxury boat while profiting from royalties on a zinc mine that the EPA once shut down as one of the worst polluting mines in America.

    Let’s not base our morality on what a few hypocrites do, but on what we all ought to do.

    I add this almost as an afterthought, but it is an important point: one of the related issues to the “hypocrisy” argument by the left is that many liberals do not want to be “constrained” by the traditional moral values espoused by conservatives, and conservatives should therefore back off and stop imposing their values. Does this hold water? Well, if it does, then why do liberals want to impose draconian global warming laws on conservatives who don’t buy into global warming? Why do liberals want to impose high taxes on certain classes of people to pay for social programs those people neither want nor need? Etcetera.

    I’m simply going to phrase your “reasoning” a different way: if you are a morally upright person, and you expect moral uprightness in your leaders, DON’T EVER VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT. Because, as you point out, Democrats don’t care about such moral uprightness.

    If you are a woman, and you have the slightest expectation that your husband should be faithful to his vows, DON’T EVER VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT. Because Democrats piss on such a “narrow-minded” tradition.

    If you don’t think that the same homosexuality that was the last stage in the decline and fall of every other great civilization should be the anvil that breaks the camel’s back of OUR civilization, DON’T EVER VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT. Because Democrats are bringing that end about on numerous levels from economic to financial to moral.

    When I say that Democrats are slime, I offer YOU as an example for my poster boy. Because you attack those who say, “We should be righteous people” and celebrate the Weiners of the world.

  24. Michael Eden Says:

    Uh, hey there dumbass? JFK wasn’t “70+” years ago. You should actually read or something.

    And it’s kind of interesting that you are so personally dishonest that you simply omit Bill Clinton, Gary Hart and John Edwards. Edwards of course is melting down as we speak. Hart had his issue as the front runner in the 1988 Democrat primary. Clinton was the president from 1993-2001.

    Show me this kind of crap in the same 25 year period for REPUBLICANS.

    You mention John McCain – who had his divorce YEARS before he ever ran for president. And that’s supposed to compare to Clinton getting blowjobs in the Oval Office, is it? Further, McCain’s “issues” resulted from the separation of six years being tortured in the Hanoi Hilton. John McCain suffered more for his country than 99.99999999999999999999999999% of any American who ever was or ever will be; and you’re going to compare him to Anthony Weiner, you little cockroach???

    Tell you what; come over to my house; I’ll lock you in the basement, chain you up, break your bones and ruin your joints, beat you like a dog every day; heck, just work out all my aggressions on you whenever it comes to mind, and we’ll play “Hanoi Hilton” every day for six years. And then we’ll see what impact that has on YOUR marriage. And you’ll be in a little better position to bring up any problem John McCain had.

    By the way, Larry Craig DID resign. Again, you distort the facts to create a warped history.

    Which is why I’m going to block you. I hate correcting lies and misrepresentations (such as omitting the VERY RECENT leaders I cite and then mocking “70+ years” when that’s clearly a lie.

    Btw, I linked to a list. You of course ignored it. But in refutation of ANOTHER outright lie you told -

    First of all, this sort of thing happens with far more frequency with Republican congressmen than Democratic congressmen

    - here’s a very partial list of Democrat slime:

    Anthony D. Weiner

    Kwame Kilpatrick

    John Edwards

    David Paterson

    Marc Dann

    Paul Morrison

    Eliot Spitzer

    Tim Mahoney

    Antonio Villaraigosa

    Roosevelt Dobbins

    Neil Goldschmidt

    Jim McGreevey

    Bob Wise

    Paul E. Patton

    Gary Condit

    Bill Clinton

    Mel Reynolds

    Brock Adams

    Chuck Robb

    Barney Frank

    Gary Hart

    Gerry Studds

    Fred Richmond

    John Andrew Young

    Allan Howe

    Wayne Hays

    Gavin Newsom

    One name that is NOT on that list is Tim Mahoney. It is interesting that you cited Mark Foley – WHO RESIGNED. That is because his seat was taken by Democrat Tim Mahoney. Tim Mahoney was a worse sexual cockroach than Foley EVER was – given that Foley never actually had sex with anybody, and given that he waited until after the page boys he befriended were over the age of consent before propositioning them.

    Your sense of “hypocrisy” was outraged by Foley? You hypocrite: here’s the Democrat who replaced him – whom you could care less about:

    You probably won’t remember the name “Tim Mahoney” in a couple of years. You may well not even know about it now. But that’s only because the same media that ginned the name of Mark Foley into a Republican witch hunt won’t do the same thing to Tim Mahoney even though he replaced Foley in the same West Palm Beach, Florida district and even though he did much, much worse.

    Mahoney spent $121,000 of taxpayer money to keep an aide with whom he was sexually involved with from talking after she threatened to sue him. Mark Foley, by the way, never actually had sex with anybody in the course of his sexual scandal.

    Here is a partial transcript of the recorded exchange between Mahoney – who is married and who so self-righteously proclaimed that he would be better than the Republican he was replacing – and Patricia Allen:

    MAHONEY: You’re fired. It’s correct. It’s what I believe. You’re fired. Do you hear me? Don’t tell me whether it’s correct or not.

    ALLEN: Tell me why else I’m fired.

    MAHONEY: There is no why else.

    ALLEN: Yeah there is.

    MAHONEY: No–just you’re fired because I said that you y’know … not the judge and the jury. Ok? You’re fired. D’you hear me? Call what’s her name in Anchorage, Alaska if you want to keep on thinkin’ like y’know that I’m not being fair or somehow this is a negotiation. This, this is not a negotiation. Ok? Y’know, you’re not in a position to negotiate with me on this. Ok? My position. Ok? You work at my pleasure. Do you understand what that means?

    ALLEN: What does it mean?

    MAHONEY: It means that you work at my pleasure. If you’re doing the job that I think that you should do, you get to keep your job. Whenever I don’t feel like you’re doing your job, then you lose your job. And guess what? The only person that matters is–guess who? Me. Do you understand that? Now this is how life really is. This is how it works.

    “You work at my pleasure. Do you understand what that means?”

    It means that we Democrats can use our female staff like frivolous little sex toys, and even pay hush money with taxpayer money, and Democratic Caucus Chair Rahm Emmanuel will still come rushing to our defense. You working at my pleasure means that you pleasure me. And if you don’t like it, why don’t you give Sarah Palin a call. Maybe she’ll care. Democrats sure won’t.

    That’s right. Rahm Emmanuel and other senior Democrats have done their best to help Mahoney keep his seat:

    Senior Democratic leaders in the House of Representatives, including Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-IL), the chair of the Democratic Caucus, have been working with Mahoney to keep the matter from hurting his re-election campaign, the Mahoney staffers said.

    ABC has at least run the story, though there’s little chance they will keep pounding away at it like they did with Mark Foley. Who else has run the story?

    Here’s a delicious bit of irony that underscores the sheer hypocrisy of Democrats. Mahoney – that paradigm of virtue – was tasked to lead the way in the Democrats’ ethics reform package.

    Republicans, and the kind of independents who vote for Republican candidates, are the kind of people who demand moral accountability. When a Republican screws up, he’s usually gone pretty damn fast. The media – and his own party – drive him out of office. Not that that matters to the media, who continue to hound the matter as long as it is useful to their liberal friends in Congress.

    If Mahoney were a Republican, we would hear the worst portions of the audio tape over and over and over again while we learned every new detail of the media investigation and any other investigation – slowly leaked out for the next three weeks to obtain maximum political damage. And they would craft the narrative that the Republican Party degrades women and that the Party that nominated a woman for Vice President actually vilifies womens’ rights and self-respect. But he isn’t a Republican; he’s a Democrat.

    So the story will probably go the way of Democratic Rep. Jack Murtha, who falsely and repeatedly accused Marines in Haditha of war crimes who later turned out to be completely innocent. Or Democratic Rep. William Jefferson, after FBI agents discovered $90,000 of bribe money found in his freezer. Two years later, he is still serving, and Democrats will re-elect him for another term. Or like Democratic Rep. Charles Rangel, who didn’t feel he needed to bother following the very tax laws he wrote for everyone else as Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee. Or Democratic Rep. Barney Frank, who not only assured the stock-buying public that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac would be solid buys in the future just before the GSEs went belly up (Enron’s Ken Lay would have rotted in prison for doing the SAME THING had he not died first); but who also had an homosexual relationship with a Fannie Mae ececutive while he had oversight over Fannie Mae, and never bothered to disclose the relationship in spite of the clear conflict of interests.

    Democrats – who routinely attack Republicans for much, much less – never seem to care about moral accountability. And the media that hold Republicans’ feet to the fire for much, much less never seem to be willing to make them care.

    Update: Mahoney has now been forced to acknoweldge other affairs, including at least one MORE case which appears to have had illegitimate or illegal finances. Again, the real issue is the fact that 1) the Democratic Party leadership came to help this scumbag win reelection even though he’s lower than whale poop; and 2) the media demonstrates that it is a Goebbels-like propganda machine in its total hypocritical double standard over how it handled Mark Foley vs. Tim Mahoney given a sex scandal in the same district at the same time before an election.

    So you go ahead and mention the Republican who resigned while omitting the fact that they Democrat who took his seat promised to be the paradigm of virtue (to put it in terms of your own argument), was given all kinds of “ethics” credibility by the Democrat Party, and then assisted in keeping his scandal private even while they publicly praised his “virtue.”

    Now begone, you vermin.

  25. Michael Eden Says:

    Btw, I did not realize this, but it should be pointed out given that Republican Senator David Vitter’s name has been repeatedly mentioned by Democrats in an attempt to create a moral equivalence.

    Wikipedia describes this scandal:

    In early July 2007, Vitter’s phone number was included in a published list of phone records of Pamela Martin and Associates, a company owned and run by Deborah Jeane Palfrey, also known as the “D.C. Madam”, convicted by the U.S. government for running a prostitution service. Hustler identified the phone number and contacted Vitter’s office to ask about his connection to Palfrey.[18][19] The following day, Vitter issued a written statement:

    “This was a very serious sin in my past for which I am, of course, completely responsible. Several years ago, I asked for and received forgiveness from God and my wife in confession and marriage counseling. Out of respect for my family, I will keep my discussion of the matter there — with God and them. But I certainly offer my deep and sincere apologies to all I have disappointed and let down in any way.[20]”

    The statement containing Vitter’s apology said his telephone number was included in phone records dating from his days as a member of the House of Representatives.[6] Phone records show that Vitter’s number was called by Palfrey’s service five times, the first on October 12, 1999, and the last on February 27, 2001.[21]

    So, while I would agree with what conservative Sean Hannity said at the time (which shows that unlike liberals, conservatives actually can be consistent), and that Vitter SHOULD have resigned, it is a fact that:

    1) Vitter’s actual scandal had occurred SEVEN YEARS prior to the events in question being brought to light. As opposed to Anthony Weiner, who was literally CAUGHT IN THE ACT.

    2) David Vitter had ALREADY confessed to his wife and priest the visits to the prostitute – as opposed to Anthony Weiner, who lied, lied, and lied some more until beyond overwhelming evidence was produced to PROVE that he was lying. And even then Weiner continued to be caught in lies he made to the American people. When the prostitution records became available, Vitter admitted that what had happened years previously was true. Which is to say that:

    3) David Vitter did not lie to the American people, as opposed to Anthony Weiner, who is a documented liar.

    4) To the best of my knowledge, there is not one picture of David Vitter’s junk all over the internet. Unlike Anthony Weiner.

    So while the Vitter case is one of those incredibly rare exceptions where the Republican did NOT resign, it is in no other way analogous. The analogous case is Republican Chris Lee (who took a picture of himself without a shirt on and posted it). Again, unlike Weiner, he did NOT show his junk, he did NOT demonstrate that he had a serious, serious problem by repeating this garbage over and over and over again, he did NOT lie about it, AND HE RESIGNED THE VERY DAY THE SCANDAL BROKE.

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