Obama Orders American Citizen MURDERED Without Due Process

Rise up, ye liberals who demonized George Bush (see also here) for his “outrages.”  Demand that Barack Obama resign from office.  Do not vote for him for any reason. 

Be consistent for at least one time in your entire worthless lives.

But most of you are genuine hypocrites to the very cores of your tiny little shriveled cockroach souls.  So you damn Bush and praise Obama for the same stuff.  It’s just who you are.

There is this tiny, infinitesimal percent of liberals for whom the following is any real problem.  And even that tiny fraction of a percent of you hypocrites are going to vote for Obama anyway.  Because you are amoral slime and you frankly disgust me:

Debate Erupts Over Legality Of Awlaki’s Killing
by Carrie Johnson
September 30, 2011

Within moments of Anwar al-Awlaki’s death, debate erupted over whether the U.S. had a legal basis to target one of its own citizens with deadly force.

Last year, President Obama put Awlaki on a secret list that gave the intelligence community a green light to target him in a deadly drone attack.

The move bothered human-rights advocates so much that they sued, enlisting Awlaki’s father as a plaintiff in the lawsuit.

“The government should not have the unreviewable authority to carry out the targeted killing of any American, anywhere, whom the president deems to be a threat to the nation,” says Hina Shamsi, who leads the national security project at the American Civil Liberties Union.

But the Justice Department responded that Awlaki wasn’t just any American. He transformed himself from a cleric who inspired young Muslims with words to an operational leader who helped equip terrorist plotters with deadly bombs.

A judge ultimately threw out the ACLU lawsuit, saying it involved state secrets and raised political questions that should be answered in Congress, not the courts.

All those questions came roaring back again today with word of Awlaki’s death at the hands of the U.S. government.

“The requirements of the Constitution with respect to due process for killing an American are not clear,” says John Bellinger, a lawyer in the State Department under President George W. Bush.

After 10 years of talking about legal authority when it comes to terrorism, he says, there’s still no international consensus on the legality of drone strikes — and no clear precedent for using those drones to kill a U.S. citizen.

“Wherever they are in the world, they have a constitutional right to due process,” Bellinger says. “But due process doesn’t necessarily mean an adversarial judicial hearing.”

So, Bellinger says, under his view of the law, a criminal trial or even an indictment doesn’t have to happen to satisfy the Constitution.

Instead, a legal finding by the Justice Department and debate among lawyers from multiple government agencies might have satisfied Awlaki’s rights under the Fifth Amendment.

Ken Anderson, who teaches at American University’s Washington College of Law and follows U.S. policy on drones, says the analysis starts with whether Awlaki amounted to a lawful target — U.S. citizen or not.

“The U.S has always seen somebody who is planning attacks against the United States as a lawful target,” Anderson says.
Either because Awlaki presented an imminent threat to American citizens or because he had become an enemy fighting alongside al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula, Anderson says, he could be seen as a lawful target.

Anderson says in the legal analysis, the place where a target is located matters too.

“[The government’s] standard is we’re not going to be targeting somebody in London or Paris or someplace that’s got the effective rule of law,” Anderson says.

But by hiding in Yemen, Awlaki couldn’t be served with a subpoena or easily taken into custody, putting himself in a different category.

The Justice Department wouldn’t talk about specific operations or individuals. Nor did it want to describe the process the government used to put Awlaki on a target list.

One administration official did agree to speak in general about targeting terrorists. “We’re not commenting on any specific individual or operation,” the official said. “As a general matter, it would be entirely lawful for the United States to target high-level leaders of enemy forces, regardless of their nationality, who are plotting to kill Americans both under the authority provided by Congress in its use of military force in the armed conflict with al-Qaida, the Taliban, and associated forces as well as established international law that recognizes our right of self-defense.”

Experts say that while it might not be required under the law, it would make good political sense to share more information with Congress and the public. Awlaki’s case might be the first case to present these difficult questions, but it won’t be the last.

I would say that I’m on Obama’s side on this one.  These rat bastards declared war on our women and children, and we should hunt them down in every single cockroach hole on the planet and we should kill them.  But then there’s the embarrassing little fact that Barack Obama repeatedly demonized George Bush for the very sorts of things that he is now himself routinely doing as president.  Which qualifies him as a liar without shame or honor or integrity.

Barack Obama came to power on lofty rhetoric that was an abject lie.  And from the moment he came to power he has cynically betrayed everything he said and lied to every single American whether that American voted for him or not.

Obama demonized Bush on Guantanamo Bay.  The weak, posturing fool swore that he would shut it down within ONE YEAR of taking office.  Now he was either the worst kind of cynical and frankly truly depraved liar – and therefore ought to be driven out of office – or he was so incompetent and so fundamentally ignorant of the job of a president that he ought to be driven out of office.  You choose which.  Either way, Guantanamo Bay continues to be a shining example of the fact that Barack Obama is an abject disgrace to presidential leadership.

He did the same damn thing on issue after issue: whether it was the Patriot Act, domestic eavesdropping, rendition, you name it, he violated his word and did the exact opposite of what he said he would do.

Just take a look at Democrats.  Consider what they said about Iraq and WMD before Bush attacked Iraq:

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/b/bushlied.htm 
http://www.freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html
http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp

Then consider how they betrayed their own previous statements to attack a president at war.  Like the traitors they are.  Then consider how they praised themselves for the same exact war they had been for before they hypocritically turned against it as Vice President Joe Biden said:

“I am very optimistic about — about Iraq. I mean, this could be one of the great achievements of this administration. You’re going to see 90,000 American troops come marching home by the end of the summer. You’re going to see a stable government in Iraq that is actually moving toward a representative government.”

The sheer unadulterated hypocrisy and chutzpah of the entire Democrat Party is mind-boggling.

It’s long past time that liberals fell flat on their face and openly admitted that they were treasonous pieces of garbage for attacking George Bush the way they did.

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10 Responses to “Obama Orders American Citizen MURDERED Without Due Process”

  1. Penumbra Says:

    Michael,

    The hypocrisy is increasing when you look from right to left of the political spectrum. Socialists and liberals win votes with their hypocrisy, but on the other hand their voters get more disappointed when the hypocrisy is revealed. Well, some of their voters, anyway.

    We must however be glad that Obama is betraying his liberal principles in this case, so that the job gets done. But we will also remember it for the next debate, when a liberal starts ranting about human rights without having contact with the reality.

    And the Norwegian Nobel Committee maybe understands that they hasted their decision on the peace prize…

  2. Michael Eden Says:

    Penumbra,

    It seems to me the problem with “liberalism” vs. “conservatism” in regards to hypocrisy comes down to each side’s respective views of “objective truth.” Liberalism is 100% postmodern when it comes to philosophy and epistemology. There is no “truth.” Truth is relative. Versus conservatives who DO believe in objective truth. As a Christian, I know that truth exists primarily because GOD is truth, and I know that I can “know the truth” (John 8:32) because a) God created human beings in HIS image (Genesis 1:27) and b) Jesus came to testify to the truth (John 18:37).

    It isn’t enough to say that liberals don’t care about the truth; they actively despise the truth. They have innoculated themselves such that it is impossible for them to see the truth.

    So liberals have endless rhetorical games to protect themselves from ever being “hypocrites.” They only fool themselves, but “themselves” include most of the media and a good share of academia. They have manufactured “the rules” (which constantly shift to always be what they want them to be) such that they are “right.”

  3. Penumbra Says:

    Michael,

    Liberalism is a political idea which is very much idealistic. It has changed lately from the sound ideas of liberty, democracy and human rights, towards some kind of quasi socialism. For every decade it seems like the new liberals lose touch with the reality a bit more. Not only that, the modern leftwing liberals even fantasize that they can change the reality.

    We have an expression in Sweden: “If the map does not match the terrain – change the terrain”. The neo-liberal ideology works like that. But you cannot change the reality, so they present their idealistic “map” for voters but they follow the “terrain”.

    Anyway, an ideology that denies God and the Christian traditions, which are the basis of our civilization, has no future.

    P.S. About the truth, one of my favorites, John 14:6: Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

  4. Michael Eden Says:

    Penumbra,

    Good catch with John 14:6. I thought of it and then forgot to put it in.

    I have said this many times, and your response reminds me of it: liberals live in a world of theories. It partially comes back to postmodern/existentialist epistemology; they don’t believe they have direct access to reality. They are meat puppets who live inside their own heads and can’t apprehend the actual world. If a theory – say Marxism or fascism – makes sense to them, then it’s a valid theory. Never mind that it doesn’t actually work in the actual world; you see, they can’t know that, can they?

    There’s this point where these people literally will themselves to be profoundly stupid. It’s not that they are dumb intellectually; it’s a problem of will. God showed us what is right and wrong and what is true and false, but they refuse to accept that. Their ways are better; they know better than God. And so they exchange the truth of God for a lie (Rom 1:25). And they come up with all of these theories which are frankly asinine.

    George Orwell may have put it best when he said that some ideas are so foolish that only an intellectual could believe them, for no ordinary man could be such a fool. And that is exactly right.

    And that leads to this partial list of what the Bible has to say about these “exalted minds”:

    You love evil more than good, Falsehood more than speaking what is right. — Psalm 52:3

    But he who sins against Me injures himself; all those who hate Me love death — Proverbs 8:36

    Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! — Isaiah 5:20

    You who hate good and love evil, Who tear off their skin from them And their flesh from their bones — Micah 3:2

    Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools – Romans 1:22

    For God’s wrath is being revealed from heaven against all the ungodliness and wickedness of those who in their wickedness suppress the truth – Romans 1:18

    In their case, the god of this world has blinded the minds of those who do not believe to keep them from seeing the light of the glorious gospel of the Messiah, who is the image of God. — 2 Corinthians 4:4

    Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron — 1 Timothy 4:2

    For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. — 2 Tim 4:3-4

    Ultimately, I don’t believe that the “success” or failure of liberals’ theories even matter that much to them; what they really want most is power and control over peoples’ lives. They want to have the power to determine who wins and who loses. They are like Milton’s Satan and think, “Better to reign in Hell, than to serve in Heaven.” Which is to say that they’d rather have totalitarian control over the shambles of an economy than have a minor part in a thriving one.

  5. Penumbra Says:

    Great quotes, Michael! With the Bible in our minds and Jesus Christ in our hearts, we shall fight evil!

  6. Michael Eden Says:

    Penumbra,

    Well, one thing about reading the Bible is that you can cheat and turn to the last page of the Book. Guess what?!?! God wins in the end – and we’re there to win with Him!

    God has a plan for the human race. And He will bring that plan to its glorious conclusion even in spite of … the human race.

  7. Penumbra Says:

    Amen, Michael. Amen!

  8. Michael Eden Says:

    And Maranatha!

  9. deez Says:

    Im so tired of our country being ran by religious fanatics! You people and your religion is the biggest downfall of man kind! thanks to you people we will always be living in the dark ages! The sad part is I cant escape it! You religious fanatica are on every fuckin continent on earth!!!

  10. Michael Eden Says:

    deez,

    And so you impose YOUR religion on me, you hypocrite.

    The worst regimes in the history of the human race, responsible for the murder of more than 100 million of their own citizens during peacetime alone, were officially state atheist (no religion like you – or rather, “YOUR religion”).

    Courts have ruled that “atheism” is a religion. Because atheists have demanded that they be accorded the same treatment as other religions. Atheism is thus legally a “religion.”

    Atheism is also philosophically a religion. Like any other religion, atheism has a theology (doctrine of God), an anthropology (doctrine of man and his origins and purpose), an eschatology (doctrine of end times) and a soteriology (doctrine of salvation). Christians and atheists have different answers – but they are answers to the SAME QUESTIONS that any religion would ask. For example, the atheists doctrine of God is that there IS no God. That hardly means atheism isn’t a religion. Many forms of Buddhism are strictly speaking atheistic, but they count as religions. Atheists have a radically different doctrine of man, but they’ve sure as can be have one. Christians say God created man in His own image; atheists require monumentally more faith to claim that man somehow “evolved” from some single cell that just happened to spontaneously explode into being. But we’ve both got an answer to the “man” question. We’ve also both got a story as to how man is “saved.” Atheists say by increased knowledge – because that’s really worked great for us so far (our increased knowledge has taught us how to vaporize ourselves with just one bomb). And yes, atheists also have an eschatology, a story about how everything is going to end up.

    It’s like a math question where you say the answer is 2 and I say it’s 4. One of us is wrong – but we are clearly both talking about math.

    Why else do atheists spend all their time arguing with other religions (because THEY are a religion) rather than arguing with other fields of thought except that they’re arguing with other religious people like them???

    I for one am rather sick and tired of a religious bigot hypocrite like you constantly trying to impose his religion on me. Please stop and go away.

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