Bush Vs. Obama On Gasoline Prices In One Very Simple Picture

Update, September 11, 2012: my new article on gas prices looks at Bush’s entire presidency (average price $2.14/gal) and his first four years (average price $1.68/gal) to DOCUMENT that he was FAR BETTER at gas prices than was Obama thus far in his first four years (average price $2.99/gal).  Please read it too.

Update, September 4, 2012: Given that liberals are genuinely idiotic people, it is apparently necessary to point out that the article and the accompanying chart that I cite below was compiled in March of 2011. How long had Obama been president as of March of 2011? If you do the math, you will find that March 2011 occurred 26 months into Obama’s presidency. Which is to point out that every single liberal who has bitched about my “cherry picking data” is an astonishingly idiotic dumbass. The Heritage article that I cite below compares the first 26 months of Obama’s gas prices – which was all they had available in March 2011 – with the EXACT SAME PERIOD DURING BUSH’S PRESIDENCY. That is as apples-to-apples as you can get.

At this point in September 2012, Obama has been president for 43 months. If we compare Obama’s first 43 months in office to Bush’s first 43 months in office, you will find that Obama has still been awful in comparison.  At this same point during Bush’s first term, in September of 2004, gasoline cost $1.89 a gallon.  Versus with Obama and gas prices of $3.82 a gallon today.  There is absolutely no legitimate comparison that will make Obama look anything other than terrible.  Barack Obama is the “Under my plan, energy prices will necessarily skyrocket” president.  Barack Obama is the president who has literally said he WANTED gas prices to go up as long as the increase was gradual so he wouldn’t get blamed.  Barack Obama is the president who appointed an Energy Secretary who is literally on the record saying he wanted to see U.S. gas prices at $9-$10 a gallon.

The shocking gas prices Bush faced in 2008 were due to the fact that Democrats took over both the House and the Senate in 2006 and refused to allow ANY domestic oil production or refinery construction WHATSOEVER until Bush finally issued his executive order in frustration.  The shocking gas prices Obama has faced and will continue to face are due to the fact that Obama is a leftwing ideologue.  Which is why Obama is setting records for high gas prices and will continue to set such records if the American people are foolish enough to allow him to remain in office.

What liberal ideologues want to do – and you see them doing it in the comments – is cite the very worst gas prices for Bush that occurred during Bush’s SECOND term. If you want to consider gas prices over a long period, it is OBAMA who has set the record for high gas prices.  LIBERALS are the ones cherry picking their data to selectively compare the second Bush term with a nonexistant second Obama term. Obama hasn’t HAD a second term to compare with Bush’s second term and I hope he doesn’t get one; but if he does I predict we will be seeing $8 gas prices rather than the $4 we saw at the worst of the end of the Bush second term. As just one example, Iran is by all accounts at the threshold of attaining nuclear weapons because Obama has abjectly failed to deal with this crisis that the Democrats once blatantly mocked Bush for warning us about. That means that either we (and Israel) do nothing and Iran becomes a nuclear weaponized power and is free to shut down the Strait of Hormuz and drive up international oil prices at will with impunity, or else Israel – hopefully with the aid of the United States – will attack Iran to destroy its nuclear capability. Either way, I guarantee you we will be seeing gas prices skyrocketing during what would be an Obama second term.  That’s the first thing you should know.

The second thing you should know is that when oil prices reached their high under Bush, President Bush took a conservative path which resulted in a wild success.  I have documented this elsewhere:

You can see the impact that America drilling for its own oil has on prices – and how despicable the mainstream media can be in covering up the truth – in the following CBS piece entitled “The Immediate Benefit Of Offshore Drilling” from July 17, 2008:

After trading at a record high of $147 a barrel Friday, the price of oil saw its largest one-day drop since the 2003 beginning of the Iraq war on Tuesday, falling $6.44 a barrel. Wednesday, it fell another $3.71, to $135.03, and at one point was trading as low as $132.

So what happened? As is usually the case with markets, a variety of factors caused this dramatic drop. According to the Associated Press, the Energy Information Administration announced that U.S. crude-oil supplies rose by 3 million barrels; beleaguered banks have been selling off valuable energy contracts to pay for other debts; and there’s even some speculation that computer programs used by Wall Street may create a “cascading effect” once prices start to drop.

But bizarrely, the AP didn’t mention that on Monday – again, the day of the single biggest one-day drop in oil prices in five years – President Bush removed the executive order imposing a moratorium on offshore drilling in the United States.

To think that this dramatic and unexpected move by the Bush administration didn’t have a significant effect on oil prices is folly. Even Democrats admit that relatively small margins in oil production could have a huge impact on prices.

The price per barrel of crude oil – which was at an all-time high the day Bush signed the moratorium that ended the ban on offshore drilling after going up and up and up to that point – continued to drop and drop. By September, it was below $109 a barrel. By October it had dropped even more. And it kept dropping.

See my comment to this article here and my article here for still more documentation to this fact that Bush’s executive order that ended the offshore drilling ban directly resulted in the price of oil/gasoline plunging.

And there is also this:

The price of a barrel of oil IMMEDIATELY dropped by $9.26 AS BUSH WAS SPEAKING [when he ended the federal moratorium on offshore drilling].

In the few days that followed, the precipitous upward climb in the price of oil went down, down, DOWN:

Update: July 18, 2008 Crude Oil has dropped to $128.88 a Barrel

Update: July 17, 2008 Crude Oil has dropped to $130.73 a Barrel

Update July 15, 2008 Crude Oil has dropped to $138.74 a Barrel Biggest drop in 17 years

We had the price of oil dropping by ten bucks a day every day after Bush ended the moratorium.

You can look at the link that has the NYSE prices to keep watching the trend.

George Bush began his presidency with gasoline prices at $1.40 a gallon.  When they got over $4 a gallon in 2008, George W. Bush finally used a conservative solution to the problem – and oil prices IMMEDIATELY plunged that very day and then continued to go down.  That is simply a documented fact.  Such that when Bush left office and Obama began his presidency, the average national price of a gallon of unleaded gasoline was $1.85 a gallon.  So if you look at the entirety of Bush’s presidency, gasoline went from $1.40 a gallon to $1.85 a gallon.

Obama began his own presidency with gasoline prices at that $1.85 a gallon and they have gone up and up and up.  And the difference between Obama and Bush is that Obama will NEVER take the type of conservative solution that Bush took and frankly that Bill Clinton took and allow the domestic drilling that America needs to get control of its gas prices.  Obama has now repeatedly attempted to take credit for oil leases that were signed and granted by George W. Bush even as he himself has refused to sign such leases himself.  To sum up Obama’s failure, I need only use one word: “Keystone.”

End update.

I’m not a tease.  Here’s the picture:

It’s a truly remarkable picture - particularly given the way the media attacked Bush for his high gas price increase and then largely refused to attack Obama for his ridiculously insane gas price increase.

Heritage nails it in an article (which is where I got the above chart from):

 In Pictures: Bush Vs. Obama On Gas Prices
Rory Cooper
March 4, 2011 at 4:00 pm

As Americans continue to feel the effects of President Obama’s anti-oil agenda at the pump, defensive liberals are circling back to a familiar line of counter-attack: blame Bush. The media vacuum on gas prices has made this line of attack all the more promising with very little national coverage being given to the president’s destructive domestic drilling agenda. Unfortunately it misses an obvious point.

President George W. Bush was mostly attacked for wanting to drill too much (or being “cozy” with the oil industry), while President Obama’s policies are rooted in unilaterally shutting down the domestic oil industry amidst rising prices and a struggling economy.

Yes, the price of gasoline reached historic levels, rising above $4/gallon during Bush’s second term, but that wasn’t due to a lack of trying to increase domestic supply. U.S. domestic supply is but one factor in the global price of oil, and thus gas prices. But when a president purposefully chooses to decrease our domestic supply by 13%, with hopes of driving that supply even lower, and objects to U.S.-Canadian pipelines and new forms of exploration, discovery and friendly importation, the price consequences are real, and should be scrutinized.

During the first twenty-six months of President Bush’s first term in office, the price of gasoline increased by 7%. At the end of his second term, the price had decreased by 9% from the time he took office (adjusted for inflation). During the first twenty-six months of Obama’s term in office, the price of gasoline has spiked over 67% with no relief in site.

Clearly, other mitigating factors were at work between those two time periods. U.S. demand is one such factor, as is global supply disruptions, cartel pricing and the cost to refine and distribute, but the current price spikes obligate serious people to scrutinize our nation’s energy policy.

President Bush’s response to $4/gallon gasoline was to lift presidential and congressional moratoriums on expanded drilling in the Outer Continental Shelf, a move that many critics say came too late. But what about Obama?

Some on the right have criticized Obama for having no energy policy. This is wrong. Obama’s energy policy is working exactly the way it is designed. This administration knows that unless the price of fossil fuels skyrocket, expensive alternative energy sources, no matter how heavily subsidized, will continue to be unattractive to American consumers.

Obviously, this risky desire to have high gas prices is a punitive policy that foolishly ignores how Americans use petroleum. While oil is largely a transportation fuel, solar and wind can only contribute to our electricity demands. Oil accounts for less than 1% of our electricity demand.

The liberal fascination with developing expensive vehicles that run on electricity doesn’t change that: 1) Solar or wind powered vehicles don’t commercially exist; 2) The cars that do run on electricity, or even battery-powered hybrids still require gas; and 3) the high cost of the alternatively fueled vehicles makes them largely insignificant in the auto market and cost-prohibitive to the average consumer.

Sure, it would be ideal to have a national fleet of cars that are inexpensive and run on cheap and widely available alternative sources of energy. But the markets have demonstrated this reality is nowhere close to fruition. And when you try to hasten that reality by artificially jacking up the price of gas, the economic effects are felt largely by the poorest among us and disincentives business owners from hiring as their fixed operating costs increase.

Think about it, who feels the pain of an extra $1 at the gas pump? The rich guys that the left demonizes or the middle-to-low income wage earners who balance their budgets by the penny, not the dollar? If the only cars available on the market were $40,000 Chevy Volts, would a Lexus or BMW consumer be hit hard, or would the family looking for a barely affordable mode of shuttling their family be affected? Consumer Reports said Obama’s heralded Volt “is an expensive way to be green.”

This economic, energy and transportation reality—the here and now—is why President Bush called for more domestic oil exploration at the same time he called for an end to our “addiction” to oil. You cannot shut down one job-creating industry while you hope another emerges. Hope is not a smart energy strategy.

This week, the Obama administration began floating the idea that depleting the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) is a viable response to rising oil prices. The SPR is where America stores roughly 700 billion barrels of oil in case of a catastrophe. Its drawdown would have a marginally positive affect on gas prices for a very short time period. Once that supply is partially or completely eliminated, we would be back to square one. In other words, the action would be purely political and designed to politically disguise a terrible energy policy.

President Obama must stop killing energy jobs, hurting American business owners and penalizing taxpayers at the pump in order to score unrelated points with his environmental base. Obama needs to end the EPA practice of imposing regulations on refineries that increase the cost of oil production. He must stop looking to raise taxes on oil producers while heavily subsidizing other energy industries.

And Obama must at least end his de facto moratorium and get America back to the domestic supply capabilities we had just two years ago. As Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA) told Interior Secretary Ken Salazar in a hearing on oil prices this week: “In January 2009 there were 16 permits issued. The next year there were 12 and this January, only two. We’re so far off the historic level. We’ve got to get it back up as quickly as possible.”

This time, in this economy, with these transportation and energy realities is not the time for Obama to curry favor with eco-liberals by raising the cost of living for the average American family. President Bush may have wanted to increase the drilling status quo by too much in your opinion, but surely we can all agree that intentionally decreasing our domestic supply makes little sense today.

Gasoline is over $4 a gallon across the state of California; it is over $5 in Los Angeles; and in some places in Florida it is over $6 a gallon.

On June 24, 2008, Obama said in demonizing Bush:

What Washington has done is what Washington always does – it’s peddled false promises, irresponsible policy, and cheap gimmicks that might get politicians through the next election, but won’t lead America toward the next generation of renewable energy. And now we’re paying the price. Now we’ve fallen behind the rest of the world. Now we’re forced to beg Saudi Arabia for more oil. Now we’re facing gas prices over $4 a gallon – gas prices that are decimating the savings of families who are already struggling in this economy. Like the man I met in Pennsylvania who lost his job and couldn’t even afford the gas to drive around and look for a new one. That’s how badly folks are hurting. That’s how badly Washington has failed.

YOU peddled a whole whopping load of false promises, Obama you liar.  You want to tell us about “irresponsible policies” now, Mister Solyndra???

Gas prices could very well hit $6 by summer.

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152 Responses to “Bush Vs. Obama On Gasoline Prices In One Very Simple Picture”

  1. V. E. Brown Says:

    This just in: Peggy Joseph has gone into hiding so she wouldn’t have to explain why she still has to put gas in her car.

  2. Michael Eden Says:

    V.E.

    That’s funny. And a good point.

    But at least she doesn’t have to pay for her mortgage thanks to Obama, right??? I mean, nobody has to pay for their mortgage anymore, do they???

    Obama mocked increasing the supply of oil as something that would reduce prices (because he has no clue about the laws of supply and demand or HISTORY given the drop in the price of oil over the Bush announcement that he was ending the federal ban on offshore drilling). Obama said of the GOP energy plan, “It’s a bumper sticker. It’s not a strategy to solve our energy challenge. It’s a strategy to get politicians through an election.”

    You want to hear the ultimate bumper sticker? “Hope and change.” The entire Obama platform is one giant empty bumper sticker.

  3. jaron resnik Says:

    You are clearly someone who has no idea how wall street works, or for that matter, looks up FACTS. Speculators anyone? You do realize we are EXPORTING more gas than are importing now, don’t you? And to say Obama isn’t drilling enough, or doing all he can, is just ridiculous if you look at the FACTS. Here’s the problem with your argument: Under President Obama, domestic oil production is up 11%. And, according to the U.S. Energy Information Association, the number of oil rigs pumping oil in the U.S. in December of 2011 was 1,173. In January 2009 when President Obama TOOK OFFICE, it was 328. In other words, the number of domestic oil wells has increased by an astonishing 358% under President Obama. Under President George W. Bush, that number increased only 64%.

  4. jaron resnik Says:

    Anyone who hates President Obama does it not based on fact. Here is the difference between normal people and republicans. I didn’t start to despise bush until he made decisions worth despising, and which I could FACT check. Republicans, on the other hand, have hated President Obama since day one, even saying that their main goal should be to make sure Obama is a one term president. Really? Not the economy? Or healthcare or jobs? Just to destroy Obama? Great elected leaders huh. They really care about America. To me, they are a form of domestic terrorists, lying and scaring the dimwitted Americans that all too easily follow like mindless sheep I understand a “typical” republicans stance: “It’s everyone out for themselves and if people can’t pay for their own healthcare, or retirement, or medicare, etc., then it’s not my responsibility to pay for ‘em, so [DELETED BY MODERATOR BECAUSE POSTER COULDN'T CONTROL HIS FILTHY MIND FOR EVEN TWO MINUTES] em.” I get that stance. I find it repulsive that people can be so heartless and cold, especially to our own citizens. But obviously most Americans only worship the dollar. Oh, and our debt is nothing like Greece’s btw. NOTHING. You have to understand economics and READ facts, not by biased political writers, but by economists who have no interest in sides…just facts. Forget that you hate President Obama, just for a day, and READ some facts for Christ’s sake. The truth is what we should all be seeking. Not a version of what we want the truth to be. And if ya can’t handle the truth kill yourself and make this country a better place

  5. Really?? Says:

    Your “stunning picture” is missing 6 years – from 2003 to 2009! What happened then? You said it in your article! “The price of gasoline reached historic levels, rising above $4/gallon during Bush’s second term.” 1 – Learn how to properly chart something. 2 – Learn how to count.
    If you are going to blame the President for something at least don’t be an idiot and make us all look stupid.

  6. Michael Eden Says:

    Jaron,

    I’m sure I’m talking to Warren Buffet who is just calling himself “jaron resnik” to remain anonymous.

    Ether that or I’m sure I’m talking to a guy who knows the words “Wall Street” and “speculators” and decided that makes you an “expert.”

    Hey, dumbass, how about a DUMBASS alert: guess what? THERE WERE SPECULATORS IN 2006 AND 2008 WHEN YOU DAMN LIBERALS WERE DEMONIZING BUSH FOR OIL PRICES!!!

    So I spend considerable time offering supporting links to document that the media and you cockroach liberals demonized Bush for high gas prices, and you offer the same excuse that you should have considered when Bush was president but refused to do??? How about you get lost???

    How DARE you offer the same excuse you refused to listen to less than four years ago.

    Furthermore, “speculators” – Mr. “Expert on Wall Street” – are mostly entities such as air lines that will need fuel regardless of whether the price goes up or down. They aren’t deliberately fiddling with the market; they are merely trying to obtain a commodity that they will need regardless at the best price they can obtain it for. And they rightly believe that the price will go up – so they are buying it now. And being that oil is a commodity, and being that Obama has refused to increase production, it is a SCARCE commodity. And so buying it now is making the price go up because of something called “the law of supply and demand.”

    And the actual “speculators” are likewise making a BET that Obama isn’t done ruining our energy industry or our economy.

    You mention that we are exporting more gas than we are importing. Allow me to explain why: because you should be thanking George W. Bush:

    “Since taking office, he has declared 85% of our offshore areas off limits, decreased oil and gas leases in the Rockies by 70%, rejected the Keystone XL pipeline, and has 10 federal agencies planning more regulation of hydraulic fracturing…. The president’s ‘Jekyll and Hyde’ approach to energy security is hurting consumers.”

    George Bush increased oil companies access to drilling, which resulted in more production a few years after his wise actions. Meanwhile, fool Obama has shut down drilling in a frankly amazingly foolish way and we won’t have that same production in a couple of years. Obama isn’t ONE BIT responsible for the increase in production; George W. Bush is.

    Under Obama, oil production is actually dramatically down in all of the federal lands that Obama has sway over.

    Here is the more of the facts on that:

    Industry analysts say production is rising — not because of President Obama, but in spite of him.

    “Today on federal land, the area where the president has control, production in the Gulf of Mexico is down 30 percent. Lease sales in Rocky Mountains on federal lands are down 70 percent,” Jack Gerard, head of the American Petroleum Institute said.

    He says the president has put 85 percent of the outer continental shelf off limits and overall, is only making 3 percent of the areas under his control available for development.

    Numbers from think tanks and the federal Energy Information Administration confirm those numbers.

    Further, oil is a COMMODITY. It is fungible, meaning that it really doesn’t matter where it is sold, it only matters how much of it is available to the global market. If China is willing to pay more, the price for oil everywhere on the planet goes up unless production increases to satisfy that increased demand. Which is to say that it doesn’t matter at ALL whether oil is being imported or exported as far as the price is concerned.

    As an example, we don’t get ANY oil from Iran, and very little oil through the Strait of Hormuz. Europe and Asia get most of that oil. But if the Strait of Hormuz is blocked off, or if Iran halts production, the price of oil – which again is a COMMODITY – increases all over the world. Because, you dumbass, oil doesn’t sell for one price in one place and another price in another place. Oil closed today at $108.56 a barrel all over the planet whether it is exported or imported.

    For the record, I documented in this article what George Bush finally did to send the price of a gallon of gas plummeting: he ended the moratorium on offshore drilling which increased access to drilling. And because there was even a MERE POTENTIAL INCREASE in supply, prices began to drop.

    And Obama could do that with the stroke of a pen if he wanted to.

  7. Michael Eden Says:

    I’m sorry, Mr. Really??

    I made the mistake of assuming you knew how to read rather than just look at pictures.

    If you’d been able to read, you would have seen that the picture recorded each president’s first 26 months of office to compare apples to apples. Maybe you’d better have your mommy explain it to you or something.

    The price of gasoline reached a higher point in Bush’s 8th year of office – which fair people can’t compare to Obama (and we’ll see how high it gets if he GETS that 8th year). But the price for gasoline over the entire course of a year was higher in 2011 than it EVER was under ANY year of Bush. Just as we just had THE most expensive January and then THE most expensive February in the history of the nation under Obama.

    Further, when the price of gasoline increased to over $4 a gallon under Bush – since you mention that – Bush did one simple thing that brought the prices on a downward trajectory that you idiot liberals will never do: he ended the ban on offshore drilling. The prices IMMEDIATELY went down when he did that.

    I can’t make you look stupid, Really. I can only watch you make yourself look stupid.

  8. Michael Eden Says:

    Which facts or which truth do you want me to look at first, Jaron?

    How about if I look at the fact that Gallup just told us that the real unemployment rate is actually over 19 percent under Obama’s economic policy? Is that a fact worthy of notice?

    How about if I look at the fact that Obama demonized Bush for $4 trillion in debt over eight years when he has now basically increased the damn debt by $6 trillion in only three years? Should I find that fact noteworthy?

    How about if I look at the fact that gas prices were higher over the course of the year 2011 than they ever were in the entire history of the country under Obama’s energy policy? How about if I look at the fact that gas prices have DOUBLED under Obama during his first three years? Are those facts worthy of notice?

    Since you mentioned Obama’s disastrous ObamaCare -

    WASHINGTONNearly two years after President Barack Obama signed his landmark health care package into law, three-quarters of registered voters believe the law’s requirement that every American carry health insurance is unconstitutional, according to a new survey.

    - should I find the fact that it is an unconstitutional socialist takeover worthy of notice???

    And since you mentioned Greece, should I find the fact that our per capital debt is actually FAR WORSE than Greece’s thanks to Obama relevant?

    How about if I look at the fact that Obama has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to resolve the housing bubble that caused our 2008 collapse? Is that a fact worthy of considering?

    How about if I look at the fact that both Afghanistan and Iraq are both going to the crapper under Obama’s foreign policy? Not to mention Syria and Libya and Egypt and damn near everywhere else? Are those facts worthy of notice?

    I suppose it is only “mindless sheep” who notice such things.

  9. Really?? Says:

    That is not comparing apples to apples. That is choosing what data supports your argument and omitting the rest. Gas rose from $1.40 in 2002 to $4.14 in 2008. That’s higher than it is today.

    I’m not pro-Obama or anti-Bush. I support a lot of the research here but I’m simply saying there are enough actual things to criticize that we don’t need to make up stories from incomplete data.

    In regards to Bush magically dropping the price of gas I’m not positive but I think drilling has increased dramatically over the last couple years? Sure the gas prices went down but a lot of major financial disasters were happening at the same time and it’s hard to say what happened.

    In any event I’m pretty sure Obama does not sit in the Oval Office and laugh at how high much gas costs and how easy it would be to solve the problem. Or maybe secretly he is jacking the prices up and three months before election time he will bring them down and act like he saved the day.

    I hope there isn’t more explaining required – I can’t afford the gas to go visit mommy.

  10. Michael Eden Says:

    Really??

    You idiot dumbass, unless you have a time machine and went to 2016 and can offer proof of what gas prices are in the eighth year of the failed Obama regime, it is apples to oranges to talk about Bush’s gas prices between 2001 and 2008 and then compare that to only three years of Obama.

    But you don’t stop at stupid: you put the petal on the metal on hypocrite, as well.

    You say:

    That is choosing what data supports your argument and omitting the rest

    But YOU DO THE VERY THING YOU SAY YOU CAN’T STAND. Because you talk about Bush’s highest gas price and conveniently omit that the price of gas went down to $1.842 on the last day of Bush’s presidency. While deceitfully claiming you’re not “anti-Bush.”

    Which is to say that the price of gas under Bush actually went from $1.40 to $1.84 – which is pretty damned AWESOME compared to Obama’s DOUBLING the price of gas.

    Further, oil production is up for one reason and one reason only: Bush policies. Bush increased oil production and the oil is now flowing from those policies. Versus Obama who has imposed a ban in every federal area that he could.

    You’re done here, you hypocrite fool. Go annoy somebody else with your “arrogant moron” schtick. I’ve got better things to do than waste time on you.

  11. Really?? Says:

    It wouldn’t matter if gas was free the last day. That administration set the record high in gas prices in the history of this country – a record that has yet to be broken. How can you argue Obama DOUBLED the prices?

    I really am done here. Thanks for proving my point.

  12. Michael Eden Says:

    How can you argue Obama DOUBLED the prices?

    Really??

    I’m letting you back just to document what a genuine idiot and hater of facts you truly are.

    The day Barack Obama took office, the average national price of gasoline was $1.84 a gallon. That is a FACT.

    As of today, March 1, 2012, the average national price of gasoline is $3.74 a gallon.

    That is a 103.26% increase in the price of gasoline since the day Obama took office. Which is to say that Obama has MORE than doubled the price of gas as of today.

    So how can I argue Obama DOUBLED the prices? I can argue it by producing something that you utterly despise, you vile little cockroach: I can argue it by producing the FACTS.

    But that’s not all: it is now being widely reported that gasoline will hit $4.50 or even $5 a gallon by Memorial Day. Which will blow the Bush “record” you have regurgitated to smithereens. So to the degree that you have even the most minimal capacity for integrity – which you don’t – your “That administration set the record high in gas prices in the history of this country” will belong to Obama and you should demonize him the way you demonized Bush.

    Furthermore, Bush fought Democrats bitterly over a policy that would lower gas prices before he finally simply took the step himself and issued an executive order over the Democrats’ screaming heads to allow offshore drilling in federal lands. That order by Bush dramatically lowered the price of gas right away and proved who was REALLY to blame for high gas prices (Democrats). Gas prices immediately went down from that $4.14 mark you demagogue, and continued to plunge thanks to Bush until they were what they were when Obama took office ($1.84 a gallon).

    I can’t do much more to demonstrate that you are a liar, a fool and an ideologue.

    So you really are done here now. Get lost.

  13. jaron resnik Says:

    You are such a moron. I cannot waste anymore of my time talking to someone who is lost in an alternate universe. I only hope that you get hit by a truck or die a horrible death. You are an enemy of America scumbag. THATS A FACT.

  14. Blogging Patriot Says:

    Oil production in the United States has hit its highest level in eight years, more rigs are operating in the U.S. than in the rest of the world combined, more than 400 drilling permits have been granted since the massive BP oil spill, and for the first time in 13 years, oil imports account for less than half of all U.S. oil consumption.

    http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/intelligent-energy/obama-vs-bush-the-oil-chart-that-will-surprise-you/11859

  15. Michael Eden Says:

    Blogging Traitor,

    Under Obama, oil production on federal lands and waters – the only areas that Obama controls – has plunged dramatically. As one example, Bush granted 36% more leases annually than Obama (2879 a year under Bush vs only 1856 for Obama).

    The facts are that:

    “Since taking office, [Obama] has declared 85% of our offshore areas off limits, decreased oil and gas leases in the Rockies by 70%, rejected the Keystone XL pipeline, and has 10 federal agencies planning more regulation of hydraulic fracturing…. The president’s ‘Jekyll and Hyde’ approach to energy security is hurting consumers.”

    The increased production we are currently seeing is on PRIVATE LANDS. You and Barry Hussein are taking credit for production that your policies have had NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH. On lands and waters under Obama’s control, we are seeing LESS drilling/production than ever.

  16. Michael Eden Says:

    I only hope that you get hit by a truck or die a horrible death. You are an enemy of America scumbag. THATS A FACT.

    Jaron,

    Really? Seriously? That’s your response to the avalanche of reality against your failure-in-chief? That’s your “fact” in response to all my facts???

    Recognizing the truth about this country’s deplorable condition under Obama makes me a “traitor”? While mindlessly following the Obama propaganda and saying everything is wonderful makes you a marvelous patriot, I suppose? Particularly when you demonstrate your “patriotism” by displays of outright hate toward enemies of your Führer???

    Thank you for giving me a recent example of how filled with hate the left is, btw.

    Clearly, I will be blocking you now that you have revealed what a truly rabid little animal you are.

  17. RBP Says:

    Obama knocked out “Keystone” which knocked out thousands of jobs. Obama can get the prices down just like Bush did when they went to 4 bucks. He just doesn’t want to. Obama doesn’t like oil and expects “the people” to switch to alternative energy over night. Alternative energy which doesn’t appear to be working so well. These gas prices are on him. Just like the Solyndra $535 million Obama administration screw-up. I find most liberals have never even heard about Solyndra. I wonder why?

  18. Michael Eden Says:

    RBP.

    You are completely correct. When gas prices got too high, Bush decided to finally ignore demonic Democrats and issue an executive order over their screaming heads. From the very MOMENT Bush ended the federal moratorium on offshore drilling, gas prices began to PLUNGE all the way down to $1.84 a gallon.

    Obama could do that today if he wanted to; he doesn’t want to.

  19. Kourosh (@Kouroshii) Says:

    People should know

  20. John Testa Says:

    The real story – gas hit $4.00 under Bush – until he destroyed the economy in 2008: http://gasbuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx

  21. Michael Eden Says:

    John Testa,

    Man, that is breathtakingly stupid.

    On your “analysis” you are left literally telling us that oil prices were high because Bush screwed up the economy, but then Bush screwed up the economy and so oil prices dropped.

    Let’s try to explain this with something you clearly don’t believe you need to bother with: ACTUAL FACTS.

    During the last two years of the Bush presidency when Nancy Pelosi was in charge of the House and Harry Reid was in charge of the Senate, the price of a gallon of gasoline went from a little over $2 to nearly $5 while Democrats steadfastly refused to allow for any increase in domestic production.

    The national average price of gasoline was well over $4 when George Bush realized that something had to be done, that Democrats would never do anything, and he had to act. Bush ended the moratorium on offshore drilling on July 14, 2008.

    On July 11, 2008 (the closest figure I could find), the price of crude oil was $145.08 a barrel.

    Bush ended the ban.

    Democrats shrieked stuff like, “This proposal is something you’d expect from an oil company CEO, not the president of the United States,” said Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., chairwoman of the Senate Environment Committee. “The president is taking special-interest government to a new level and threatening our thriving coastal economy.”

    And of course the Democrats were right: the “special interest” of the American people finally got considered:

    The price of a barrel of oil IMMEDIATELY dropped by $9.26 AS BUSH WAS SPEAKING.

    In the few days that followed, the precipitous upward climb in the price of oil went down, down, DOWN:

    Update: July 18, 2008 Crude Oil has dropped to $128.88 a Barrel

    Update: July 17, 2008 Crude Oil has dropped to $130.73 a Barrel

    Update July 15, 2008 Crude Oil has dropped to $138.74 a Barrel Biggest drop in 17 years

    You can look at the link that has the NYSE prices to keep watching the trend:

    By July 18, it was at $128.88

    By July 25, it was $123.26

    By the election it was $64.04. VERSUS $145 THE DAY BUSH ENDED THE DAMN FEDERAL OIL BAN.

    It dropped like a stone and didn’t come back up until the most failed president in the history of this country said under his plan, energy rates would necessarily skyrocket and until he picked an energy secretary who said somehow we have to figure out how to make American gasoline as expensive as it is in Europe.

    Bush ending the moraturium and signalling the markets that we could increase production and put into practice something you fool liberals will never be able to understand – something called the law of supply and demand – was what caused the drop in oil prices, you ignorant dumbass.

  22. Anonymous Says:

    Thank you Michael for you FACTS. It so sad that the liberals (including my family) only want to believe what they see and hear in the liberal media. Facts and facts and though I knew much of this information already and tried to use them in my family debate tonight, they just won’t listen. No wonder this country is going to hell in a handbasket.

    I just wanted to let you that I thoroughly enjoyed reading your blog to to thank you for all your hard work on it.

  23. Michael Eden Says:

    I just wanted to let you that I thoroughly enjoyed reading your blog to to thank you for all your hard work on it.

    Anonymous,

    Thanks for posting that.

    It is for people like you and ONLY for people like you that I continue to work on this blog.

    I really have no desire whatsoever to waste my time with liberal ideologues who are more incapable of understanding the truth than my dog. My goal is to 1) preserve a record as to how Obama destroyed America; and 2) to provide arguments and supporting facts/articles to conservatives and independents who are capable of being shaped by the truth.

  24. Freddit Says:

    Sorry, good facts and research, but youe conclusions will always be confounded with the economic crash of 2008. Nobody will ever know if the plunge of oil in 08 was due to lifting the moratorium or economic crash. It is fairly foolish to insist either side is 100% correct, and that’s why there is no real sure answer. However, as well written and factual as your posts are, you do come off as a right wing nut job unfortunately which will always turn you off to moderates like me. Sorry.

  25. Yaesuman Bill Says:

    None of us like paying higher prices for gasoline. Some of us can’t afford the price increases we have seen the last few weeks and months to get to work and wherever else we need (or want) to go, leaving us less to spend on other products. But what most politicians have to say on the subject is nonsense. They want to score political points, rather than find a way out of this mess, or at least a way to improve it.

    The giddy, knee-jerk response to higher gasoline prices is the thoughtless mantra “drill, baby, drill.” But our problem is not a lack of domestic oil production. We are producing about all we can, with thousands of leases still not developed. And domestic demand is lower than it was 14 years ago. According to a report in Bloomberg Businessweek Magazine, the US demand for crude oil in 2011 was less than it was in April 1997. In spite of our gargantuan appetite for oil, as a share of our total use, domestic oil consumption was 15 points lower in 2005 than it was in 1995. Today’s figures are about the same, according to a petroleum report in the Financial Times of London.

    The largest single source of oil for the US is Canada, at 25%. The OPEC countries together account for 47% of US imports. Demand for oil in the US dropped 2% in 2011, while US oil production has increased. The rise in gasoline prices is not because we don’t have enough oil. Two reasons for the higher prices are the rising cost of oil on the world market because of higher demand in China and India, and the actions of crude oil commodity speculators.

    US oil companies export more oil products, such as gasoline and diesel, than they import. The top ten countries we export to are Mexico, Netherlands, Chile, Canada, Spain, Brazil, Guatemala, Turkey, Argentina, and France. In fact, most of the XL Pipeline tar sands oil that could come from Canada is slated to be turned into diesel and exported, according to the refineries that will process that oil if it ever comes into the US. The main reason for the increased US exports of petroleum products is that the refineries make more money exporting it than selling it domestically. Further, the refineries in the Port Arthur area are in a Foreign Trade Zone that rewards them with tax breaks for exporting oil products.

    The thousands of new jobs that some politicians and business interests claim will be created by the XL Pipeline are nothing but Chamber of Commerce-type hype. The pipeline construction may result in 2500 temporary jobs, not tens of thousands of permanent jobs.

    A leading expert on gas prices, James Hamilton of The University of California-San Diego, says that generally a $1 increase in the price of crude oil produces a 2.5-cent increase in the price of gasoline, which is exactly what has been happening in recent weeks.

    While the gasoline price increases are not yet higher than they were in 2008, we did not hear President Bush being blamed for those increases then. But those opposed to President Obama have been yelling to anyone within earshot that the current responsibility for gasoline price increases are his. This is partisan and political nonsense, unsupported by the economic reality that about 97% of the price of gasoline is determined by the price of crude oil, according to Stuart Staniford, a scientist in the technology industry who studies oil-related data.

    Around 2004, oil production stopped increasing world-wide. The producing countries have only so many pumps, oil pipelines, tankers, and other methods of getting the crude oil to refineries. As a result, the increasing demand from Asia and the rest of the rapidly-developing countries has created new competition for the oil production that is available, driving prices up. Decreasing demand for oil products caused by more energy-efficient vehicles makes a small difference in the price of gasoline, as do marginal increases or decreases in the price charged by retailers.

    Oil commodity speculators also drive up the price of crude oil. According to some estimates, such speculators control 80% of the commodity futures market in crude oil. Such speculators don’t produce oil, refine it, or use it, except as a way to make money by arranging to buy it at one price and sell it at a higher price. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont) wrote recently for CNN Opinion:

    “I’ve seen the raw documents that prove the role of speculators. Commodity Futures Trading Commission records showed that in the summer of 2008, when gas prices spiked to more than $4 a gallon, speculators overwhelmingly controlled the crude oil futures market. The commission, which supposedly represents the interests of the American people, had kept the information hidden from the public for nearly three years. That alone is an outrage. The American people had a right to know exactly who caused gas prices to skyrocket in 2008 and who is causing them to spike today.

    “Even those inside the oil industry have admitted that speculation is driving up the price of gasoline. The CEO of Exxon-Mobil, Rex Tillerson, told a Senate hearing last year that speculation was driving up the price of a barrel of oil by as much as 40%. The general counsel of Delta Airlines, Ben Hirst, and the experts at Goldman Sachs also said excessive speculation is causing oil prices to spike by up to 40%. Even Saudi Arabia, the largest exporter of oil in the world, told the Bush administration back in 2008, during the last major spike in oil prices, that speculation was responsible for about $40 of a barrel of oil.”

    Confirming Sen. Sanders’s statements are comments from Bart Chilton, a commissioner on the five-member Commodity Futures Trading Commission, which regulates the trading of contracts for future deliveries of oil, as well as other commodities: “There is currently ample supply and limited demand, which should not push prices to the places they are today. Financial regulators are not price setters, but we are supposed to ensure prices are fair, and I am concerned that today they are not. There is a speculative premium being paid by consumers and businesses alike.”

    New shale oil production in North Dakota and West Texas, new off-shore production, and recovering oil from the Arctic might increase global supplies a bit if the oil can be shipped to refineries, and if the refineries can increase their capacity to produce more oil products. But given the increasing demand for oil in China and other countries with newly-growing economies, it is unlikely that the price of crude oil will be permanently reduced by those small increases in production. With speculators influencing the price of crude oil for their economic benefit, the price will continue to be significantly higher than it would be in a non-speculative market. Such speculators are rightly seen as social and economic parasites who would rather manipulate oil prices than do any productive work.

    But the bottom line is that everyone in the world will pay whatever they must to get the oil they need no matter what causes price increases. And the US will not be exempt from these forces. The chances that this Congress will do something about the crude oil speculation seems not very good to me, so we will continue to pay higher prices than we need to pay at the pump.

    Realistically (meaning we will get no help from Congress), the best we can hope to do to lessen the impact of high oil prices is to drive more economical vehicles, switch to electric and hydrogen-powered vehicles (when they become available), or find other technologies to meet our transportation needs that don’t rely so directly on oil products.

  26. Michael Eden Says:

    Yaesuman Bill,

    It is true that we are producing more oil – NOT ONE BIT OF THANKS TO OBAMA, GIVEN THAT THE INCREASE IN PRODUCTION IS COMING FROM STATES WHILE FEDERAL PRODUCTION HAS DECREASED BY 20% – than we were eight years ago.

    But DEMAND IS THE LOWEST ITS BEEN IN FIFTEEN YEARS. Which would mean that if increasing production is ruled out, decreasing demand is TWICE as ruled out.

    Here’s the problem: produciton has gone up very slightly, but GLOBAL DEMAND HAS SKYROCKETED.

    Our production has come nowhere NEAR to addressing that increase in demand.

    You couldn’t possibly be more wrong when you ignorantly assert:

    We are producing about all we can

    Fact: The United States has a TRILLION BARELLS of recoverable oil.

    I recently demonstrated for another fool what’s wrong with your argument that increasing production or even simply increasing ACCESS to increasing production results in a drop in oil prices if you just DO IT.

    When the price of oil was sky high under Bush, Bush ended the moratorium on offshore drilling – and the price of oil PLUMMETED.

    So you can throw all the theories you want at me: I’VE GOT ACTUAL DOCUMENTED HISTORY ON MY SIDE. And my actual documented history refutes all of your theories.

    There’s another problem with your argument about the fact that oil companies are shipping oil elsewhere: under this demonic president who hates oil and oil companies with a Hitleresque passion, WHY SHOULDN’T THEY??? Why in the hell should they remain here where they are demonized and hated and penalized???

    And you talk about “speculators,” and how they’ve driven up the price of oil. It’s not the SPECUALTORS, stupid: it’s the fact that Obama has done zero-point-zero-zero about Iran getting a damn nuclear bomb even as he has created a boiling caldren across the Middle East. You can look through my articles on Obama and Iran and see that I was predicting Iran would get the damn bomb and Obama wouldn’t do anything about it BEFORE OBAMA EVEN GOT ELECTED.

    I have REPEATEDLY cited this article from the LA TIMES detailing how Obama, Biden and Hillary Clinton demonized George Bush for believing Iran was a nuclear threat and we should deal with Iran.

    So to whatever impact “speculators” have, it is “speculation” that Barack Obama is an incompetent fool who was to useless and weak to deal with Iran when we had the chance.

  27. Michael Eden Says:

    I’ll simply refer back to my proof of what I was saying here.

    The price of oil dropped $9.26 AS BUSH WAS SPEAKING when he announced he was lifting the moratorium. And it continued to drop by basically ten bucks a day in the days immediately afterward. And this in July BEFORE the economy really blew up later in August/September. Which is to say that you are clearly not troubled by actual facts.

    And if I had just one nickel for every time I’ve had a liberal pretend he or she was a “moderate” to deceitfully rhetorically pretend they are “the voice of bi-partisan reason,” I’d be a filthy rich man.

  28. Durt Bagg Says:

    The idiot author seems to have a conveniently short memory when it comes to gas prices (“Obama’s policies mean we will soon see $5 gas,” Feb. 24). He wants to “go back to 2008 prices.”

    I remember 2008 gas prices well, as I had a service business at the time. Gas was $4.20 a gallon for regular. This was duringGeorge W. Bush’s presidency. When President Bush came into office in 2002, gas was only $1.40 a gallon.

  29. Michael Eden Says:

    The idiot commenter ought to realize first of all that 1) Bush came into office in 2001, not 2002 and 2) that under the Bush presidency oil went from (actually) $1.44/gallon to $1.84 a gallon the day Obama took office.

    So under George W. Bush, the price of a gallon of gas during the Bush presidency increased by 27.8 percent. Over eight years. Or a 3.5 percent increase per year of his presidency.

    Bush was hamstrung by complete idiots otherwise called “Democrats.”

    Nancy Pelosi did everthing she could to save us from evil oil so Americans wouldn’t be able to put gas in their cars. She said crap like:

    “I’m trying to save the planet; I’m trying to save the planet,” she says impatiently when questioned [on energy policy].

    And she was rabidly committed to gas prices soaring as much as she could make them soar.

    Meanwhile her pal Harry Reid who was the leader of the Senate when Democrats successfully caused gas prices to soar so much said:

    “The one thing we fail to talk about is those costs that you don’t see on the bottom line. That is coal makes us sick, oil makes us sick; it’s global warming. It’s ruining our country, it’s ruining our world. We’ve got to stop using fossil fuel.”

    And Democrats got what they wanted. They “saved the planet” by making Americans pay up the whazoo for that demon oil that was making us so sick.

    During the last two years of the Bush presidency when Nancy Pelosi was in charge of the House and Harry Reid was in charge of the Senate, the price of a gallon of gasoline went from a little over $2 to nearly $5 while Democrats steadfastly refused to allow for any increase in domestic production.

    You see, you are a fool who blames the people who say, “We need more oil” and you are an apologist for the people who did everything they could do to keep us from having more oil. That’s your problem.

    Anyway, the Demoncrats (that’s “Demonic Bureaucrat”) succeeded in giving the American people sky high gas prices. And then Bush finally went over their heads and ended the moratorium on offshore oil that allowed America to increase its production of the oil Democrats hated so much. While he was speaking, the price of oil dropped by over nine bucks a barell. And during the next few days, the price of oil went down, down, down as a result of Bush’s ending the ban. Oil in fact dropped by nearly ten bucks a DAY for days after Bush ended that damn ban which amounted to allowing production to INCREASE and causing prices of gas to DECREASE.

    Meanwhile, Obama said he WANTED oil prices to go up – as long as the increase was gradual so people wouldn’t get pissed off and hold the fool (that would be Obama) personally resonsible.

    When Obama was running for president, a liberal supporter said he was GLAD gas prices were high and Obama AGREED with him.

    Barack Obama is the first president who has EVER said the goal of his presidency was to make energy prices “necessarily skyrocket” and to bankrupt coal companies from which Americans get half their electricity.

    As a result of his fanatic rabidly liberal America-hating ideas, Obama picked an energy secretary who actually said:

    “Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe.”

    And that’s like ten bucks a gallon now. And going up fast.

    Under Obama’s policies, he has done everything he could to choke off oil production on federal lands:

    “Since taking office, [Obama] has declared 85% of our offshore areas off limits, decreased oil and gas leases in the Rockies by 70%, rejected the Keystone XL pipeline, and has 10 federal agencies planning more regulation of hydraulic fracturing…. The president’s ‘Jekyll and Hyde’ approach to energy security is hurting consumers.”

    So gasoline increased by 27.8% over eight years of Bush’s presidency. How did they do under Obama so far?

    As I documented, gas was $1.84 a gallon when Bush took office. Less than three and a half years later, gasoline cost $3.8148 as of March 9.

    That is a 107.7 percent increase. Or a 36 percent increase for every year of his failed presidency.

    And therefore gasoline will likely get to $5 a gallon by Memorial Day.

    God help us if this little weasel gets reelected. It will be over $12 a gallon by the time he gets out of office. Which is to say he will have succeeded in doing exactly what he told us he would do: make our energy prices “necessarily skyrocket.”

  30. Jon Says:

    The price of gas was a low $1.89 the day Obama took office because of the economic crisis resulting in low demand. On Sept 8 2008 it was $3.65, Oct 6 2008 it was $3.48.. To compare the price of gas today to Jan 20 2009, the day Obama took office, is really dishonest.

    Also, it is nonsense to believe it is apples to apples when comparing gas prices in the first 26 weeks of each presidency. History is continous, you can’t look at time X without looking at time X minus delta. Something happened between Bush’s $4/gal in June 2008, and Obama’s $1.89 the day he was sworn it, it’s called a huge recession. Even Fox’s Chris Wallace understands this.

    And the idea that lifting the offshore drilling moratorium is just plain dumb:

    From Joseph Dukert (energy analyst):
    Nonsense! Panic drove oil to that peak in 2008, but it was primarily the recession that drove it back down so far. Furthermore, U.S. domestic supply and demand are factors in world price, but usually not as significant as a variety of others.

    Most energy economists applauded President Bush’s action in regard to offshore drilling, but suggesting that this “caused” the precipitous drop in global oil prices is akin to the rooster’s boast that his crowing brought the sun up. It’s heartening that U.S. domestic production of crude oil in 2009 was the highest it had been since 2003 (up roughly half a million barrels a day over those preceding years) . . . and that last year (despite the moratorium on new deepwater drilling that followed the BP blowout) U.S. crude production increased again — by about 250,000 barrels per day. But the countercyclical movement in 2010 showed that it makes little sense to attribute world price shifts to short-term U.S. production changes of any magnitude we might reasonably assume. It’s a big world out there!

    From Michael Canes (energy ecomonist):
    Coincidence is not causation, and in this instance I’d say that the two events – the lifting of the moratoria and the ensuing reduction in oil prices – are much more in the coincidence realm than one of causation. I say that for several reasons.

    1. There was a Congressional moratorium on offshore drilling in place at the time, and this moratorium was not lifted with the President’s action.

    2. Even had that not been the case, the time from lifting of a moratorium to offshore leasing to drilling to discovery to production is measured in years, not weeks or months. At best, the possibility of future production from the lifting of a moratorium might have had some very slight impact on the present price of oil, but even that is questionable because of the uncertainties and timing involved.

    3. Any such impact would be slight at best because worldwide production and consumption of oil at the time was about 85 million barrels per day, whereas new offshore U.S. discoveries from lifting of the moratorium likely would have yielded production of several hundred thousand barrels per day to maybe a million barrels per day, not many millions. While every bit helps, such incremental amounts could not have reduced world prices by over one hundred dollars per barrel.

    4. Most oil market experts believe that the rapid and sustained reduction in oil prices that began in 2008 and extended beyond occurred because the world economy began to slow down and ultimately to experience a deep recession. This is one way to reduce oil prices, but not a very attractive one.

    5. Finally, it is useful to put the President’s lifting of the moratorium into context. It occurred during the election campaign of 2008, at a time when gasoline prices had skyrocketed in the U.S., and it was accompanied by a request to Congress to remove the Congressional moratorium, putting pressure on Democrats to respond. Just a normal part of politics, both sides push for such advantage during election season, the point only is that it’s useful to understand the context of an action to better understand its rationale.

  31. Michael Eden Says:

    Jon,

    None of your points even comes close to dealing with what I have now said over and over again in my comments to this article: in July of 2008, oil cost over $145 a barell. And Bush ended the ban, and the price of oil dropped by over nine dollars WHILE BUSH WAS SPEAKING and continued to drop by ten dollars a day for DAYS. And that set up the trajectory for lower oil prices more than ANYTHING else.

    Bush ending the ban provided the signal to the industry and to speculators that America was actually going to increase the supply. And it wasn’t very long after that the DEMOCRATS who caved in on that ban AFTER DECADES OF OBSTRUCTION ON PROVIDING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WITH OIL.

    Your argument that “it takes years” has been used for YEARS, you dumbass. If we’d done the stuff that took “years” years ago when Democrats said it wouldn’t matter because that stuff takes YEARS, we wouldn’t be in this boat now. How can you people never understand that??? AND YOU’RE STILL DOING IT WITH KEYSTONE NOW as if you’re animals who are incapable of truly being able to plan for the future in any way, shape or form.

    What is Obama’s energy policy? Pissing away America’s prosperity with a hundred billion dollars for failed green energy boondoggles like Solyndra rather than increasing oil so we can fill our tanks with greeness rather than gasoline; inflating your tires so we can fix all our problems with Obama’s hot air rather than fill our tanks with gasoline; oh, and filling your tank with ALGAE rather than gasoline. And it is just such a mystery why that isn’t working.

    Further, the Democrats CONTINUE TO IMPLICITLY AGREE THAT INCREASING THE SUPPLY OF OIL WILL LOWER PRICES even as they deny the very reality they affirm: Democrats have called on Obama to ask Saudi Arabia to increase production (increase the supply); Democrats have demanded Obama open the strategic petroleum reserve (increase the supply of oil into the market); Obama gave Brazil billions of dollars to drill for oil (increase the supply of oil). ALL WHILE DENYING THAT IF WE INCREASE OUR OWN DRILLING WE WOULD ACCOMPLISH THE SAME COST REDUCTION.

    Still further, there is no way you can argue that Bush ending the moratorium was the MOST he could do as president. Versus your guy who is refusing to do the LEAST he could do. Obama killed Keystone when even his own LABOR UNIONS wanted it. Obama gives us fake believe on oil production. Obama is literally losing lawsuits over his strangling oil policies. Obama has even been caught red-handed altering SCIENCE DOCUMENTS to prevent oil drilling. Which is to say that Bush tried to increase production; Obama is trying to shut it down even while he lies out of his butt and tries to create the deceitful impression that he is the reason for any increased production.

    That having been said, while you offer a good point or two, your overall argument is entirely full of sanctimonious crap. And here’s why: when the shoe was on the other foot, everybody like YOU were demonizing BUSH. And so when you do your “to compare the price of… to … the day Obama took office, is really dishonest, YOU ARE REALLY DISHONEST.

    YOU are the Obama guy who joined in with Barry Hussein when he demonized George Bush over the damn debt ceiling

    The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents – #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic.”

    And:

    The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”

    - And then YOU were the Obama guy who joined in and defended that same Obama after HE PROCEEDED TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING BY THE THREE LARGEST AMOUNTS IN THE HISTORY OF THE HUMAN RACE.

    YOU are the Obama guy who demonized George Bush over Gitmo only to keep it open yourselves for the entire Obama presidency because Gitmo was the ONLY thing to do and you are pathologically dishonest weasels.

    YOU are the Obama guy who joined in demonizing Bush for the 2008 collapse when IT WAS YOU DAMN DEMOCRATS WHO CREATED THE HOUSING BUBBLE WITH YOUR IDIOTIC AND IMMORAL FANNIE MAE POLICIES that led to the collapse.

    Frankly, HOW DARE YOU get sanctimonious now after what your ilk did to Bush when gas prices got high (here and here and here and here and here and I could go on and on and on).

    So to whatever limited extent we are doing to you what you did to us, YOU GET TO ENJOY THE TASTE OF YOUR OWN MEDICINE NOW, DON’T YOU???

  32. Jon Says:

    Michael Eden: The lift on the moratorium had nothing to do with the drop in gas prices. That’s coming from energy experts. The drop was caused by low demand caused by the economic crisis. Your arguments are based on name calling and willful stupidity. I’ll let Mike Wallace from Fox News explain it to you:

    WALLACE: But Mr. Speaker, gas experts make two points. First of all, you pointed out the fact that gasoline was $1.89 a gallon when President Obama took office. They say that’s a bit misleading because it was the depths of the recession, so understandably gas prices had gone down. And fact is, just six months before it was $4.11 under President Bush.

    OR Washington Post Fact Checker:
    Boehner correctly noted that gas prices have doubled since President Obama took office. But he did not mention that they were unusually low in early 2009 because of the economic crisis, when demand for energy plunged. We’re not sure that the economic misery of those days is worth cheap gas.

    OR Patrick DeHaan, a senior petroleum analyst at gasbuddy.com:
    DeHaan acknowledged that prices risen considerably since Obama took office. But he was quick to add there should “be a massive asterisk” next to that statement. A big reason prices were so low to begin with when Obama became president was because he entered the White House as the U.S. was coming out of an economic downturn, which depresses gas prices.

    It’s hard to believe adults can reason like you. But please go ahead and enjoy spreading your propaganda.

    But first, one more time: Explaining the drop in gas prices using the lift on the moratorium is pure nonsense. Thus, the whole point of this topic is idiotic. The title should read: “Bush Vs. Obama On Gasoline Prices In One Very MISLEADING Simple Picture”.

  33. Michael Eden Says:

    Jon,

    AGAIN you COMPLETELY IGNORE THE FACTS. And your replacing facts with appeals to leftwing “authorities” is simply pathetic. Here are the facts AGAIN:

    During the last two years of the Bush presidency when Nancy Pelosi was in charge of the House and Harry Reid was in charge of the Senate, the price of a gallon of gasoline went from a little over $2 to nearly $5 while Democrats steadfastly refused to allow for any increase in domestic production. So the increase in gas prices was more DEMOCRAT fault than Republican fault, as I can show.

    The national average price of gasoline was well over $4 when George Bush realized that something had to be done, that Democrats would never do anything, and he had to act. Bush ended the moratorium on offshore drilling on July 14, 2008.

    On July 11, 2008 (the closest figure I could find), the price of crude oil was $145.08 a barrel.

    Bush ended the ban.

    Democrats shrieked stuff like, “This proposal is something you’d expect from an oil company CEO, not the president of the United States,” said Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., chairwoman of the Senate Environment Committee. “The president is taking special-interest government to a new level and threatening our thriving coastal economy.”

    And of course the Democrats were right: the “special interest” of the American people finally got considered:

    The price of a barrel of oil IMMEDIATELY dropped by $9.26 AS BUSH WAS SPEAKING.

    In the few days that followed, the precipitous upward climb in the price of oil went down, down, DOWN:

    Update: July 18, 2008 Crude Oil has dropped to $128.88 a Barrel

    Update: July 17, 2008 Crude Oil has dropped to $130.73 a Barrel

    Update July 15, 2008 Crude Oil has dropped to $138.74 a Barrel Biggest drop in 17 years

    We had the price of oil dropping by ten bucks a day every day after Bush ended the moratorium.

    You can look at the link that has the NYSE prices to keep watching the trend.

    Now, our economy didn’t blow up until SEPTEMBER, you stupid jackass. Your premise is therefore utterly refuted by the FACT that the Bush end to the moratorium IMMEDIATELY brought down gas prices and the FACT that the crash hadn’t even OCCURRED yet when Bush in fact brought those oil prices down.

    I will be blocking you as a fool who refuses to interact with basic facts. I tried TWICE to get you to deal with the above facts to no avail. And there is simply no point whatsoever in trying to have any kind of discussion with somebody who refuses to even bother to try to interact with what you are saying.

    The other thing is – in response to your “please go ahead and enjoy spreading your propaganda” – IS THAT YOU STINKING TURD LIBERALS LOVE PROPAGANDA AS LONG AS IT’S YOUR PROPAGANDA. So when it was YOUR side illegitimately demonizing Bush, you were just fine with that, you hypocrite slimebag.

    Now get lost and go hump somebody else’s leg.

  34. a scientist and engineer Says:

    It is unfair to blame Obama or to have blamed Bush when gas prices went up and cheer them when gas prices dropped.

    Scientifically speaking, you are not comparing apples to apples as there are too many variables that influence the price of gas to have an equal comparison. Yaesuman Bill points out several things that influence gas prices; I would add things like lack of US refinery capacity and the age of US refineries (which are frequently down for maintenance or due to accidents) drive up the price of gas, warm or cold winters and summers which drive demand (of heating oil), public confidence in the economy (rather than the actual economic indicators), etc.

    Name-calling (on both sides) does not add to the argument, it merely turns independent thinkers off.

  35. Michael Eden Says:

    “a scientist and engineer,”

    You can call yourself “Napolean the conqueror of Western Civilization” for all I care. You are a lying little turd is the bottom line. You are as independent of a thinker as the mole on my butt is an “independent thinker,” you liberal tool. And it really aint.

    The only “variable” that matters is the fact that Barack Obama and Democrats demonized George Bush for gas prices and somehow you little freaks weren’t saying ANY of that “let’s none of us say anything bad about our president about gas prices” when said president was named Bush, you hypocrite liar. And I would love to have you try to show me otherwise.

    The polls are overwhelming: they show Obama at an all time low over his failure to do a damn thing about gas prices.

    So now you liberals are panicking that people are actually starting to hold Obama accountable to his own words. And we just can’t have liberals being held to their own demagoguery, can we???

    And all of you liberal losers “scientifically speaking” crap has STILL never bothered to even ONCE deal with the basic FACTS:

    Bush ended the moratorium and prices for oil IMMEDIATELY WENT DOWN. Prices went down because Bush showed he was serious about allowing oil production to increase and “scientifically speaking” there is something called the law of supply and demand that intelligent people recognize.

    Obama could have similarly lowered prices by himself demonstrating he was serious about increasing the oil production that we need rather than demonizing oil and pissing away a hundred billion dollars on failed green boondoggles like Solyndra. But nope: he had an opportunity handed to him on a golden platter – even had a chance to do something his union thug masters wanted – but instead he bowed down to his green crony capitalists.

    Democrats have themselves recognized that increasing supplies will lower prices: they have demanded that Obama ask Saudi Arabia to increase production; they have asked Obama to release more oil into the system via the strategic reserves; Obama has given Brazil billions to drill. Democrats believe increasing the supply of oil will work AS LONG AS WE ARE NEVER ALLOWED TO TOUCH OUR OWN OIL.

    Oh, and btw, THE OIL REFINERIES ARE OLD BECAUSE YOU DAMN COCKROACH LIBERALS HAVEN’T ALLOWED THE OIL COMPANIES TO BUILD ONE IN FORTY YEARS.

    For example, 92% of Democrats voted against the refinery bill (Refinery Permit Process Schedule Act, H.R. 5254) versus 99% of Republicans supporting it. Republicans brought up the No More Excuses Energy Act which would have eliminated barriers to building new refineries in the United States – and Democrats voted it down in droves. Democrats have put up so many restrictions and regulations and barriers to building new refinerees that it is likely that we will never have one built in the United States again. So even your miserable excuses that you call “variables” are damn Democrats’ faults.

  36. Jon Says:

    “Bush ended the moratorium and prices for oil IMMEDIATELY WENT DOWN.” Show me one energy expert who thinks the end of the moratorium caused the price of gas to drop.

  37. Michael Eden Says:

    Show me one energy expert who thinks the end of the moratorium caused the price of gas to drop.

    An “expert” once told Jon to stick his head under the wheels of a moving bus. That’s why he’s got all his problems now.

    I’d rather deal with the laboratory of prediction and FACT than waste my time looking for what some “expert” says.

    Here’s the prediction regarding the moratorium from the New York Slimes:

    Democrats in Congress, joined by environmentalists, criticized the step and ridiculed it as ineffectual, while most Republicans and industry representatives applauded it as long overdue. [...]

    “With this action, the executive branch’s restrictions on this exploration have been cleared away,” he said Monday. “This means that the only thing standing between the American people and these vast oil resources is action from the U.S. Congress.”

    Mr. Bush’s decision was welcomed by industry representatives. Brian J. Kennedy of the Institute for Energy Research in Washington, which favors opening the shelf, said lifting the presidential ban would focus attention on the need for Congress to act, easing the speculative pressure driving up the cost of oil.

    “This would send a very strong signal to the global market that the United States is finally getting serious about producing its own energy resources,” he said.

    Now, if you don’t think that I could find an “EXPERT” from the many experts under the employ of the oil industry, you are even more stupid than I thought; and I thought you were plenty stupid before.

    Here’s the documented historical FACT:

    Larry Kudlow: In a dramatic move yesterday President Bush removed the executive-branch moratorium on offshore drilling. Today, at a news conference, Bush repeated his new position, and slammed the Democratic Congress for not removing the congressional moratorium on the Outer Continental Shelf and elsewhere. Crude-oil futures for August delivery plunged $9.26, or 6.3 percent, almost immediately as Bush was speaking, bringing the barrel price down to $136.

    Now, if none of your “experts” believe that a drop of 6.3 percent in oil prices while Bush was speaking had anything to do with what Bush was saying; if you don’t think the ten dollar a day drop that we say from the day Bush spoke that went on for DAYS had anything to do with what Bush said; if you don’t think that oil was going up and up and up prior to when Bush spoke and was at $145 a barell as Bush spoke, only to begin an immediate drop the moment Bush began speaking which continued to go down and never go back up until after Bush was out of office, then you and all of your “experts” are simply pathological.

    I suppose I’m unique in all the world, but I don’t need to consult the “experts” to tell me if the sky is blue. For whatever reason, I – maybe alone – possess the ability to go outside, look at the sky, and declare, “The sky is blue.” I’m sorry you can’t know what that’s like, Jon. And in the same way, I can look at the price of oil as Bush is speaking, watch it plunge as he speaks, continue to watch what had gone up and up and up start going down and down and down immediately after Bush spoke, and I can say, “The end of the moratorium made oil prices go down.” And all by myself, too.

    But please don’t feel stupid or anything, Jon. My dog can’t do that, either.

    When Bush ended the moratorium, it was obvious to everyone but a wide-eyed Nancy Pelosi that Democrats would cave in and vote to officially end the moratorium. And everybody knew it who wasn’t either crazy or evil, Jon. The vote by the Democrats controlling Congress just made what everybody knew would happen and the markets had very obviously already largely already acted upon official. Nothing more.

    I’m done with you. You may feel free to visit my spam as often as you like, but I’m not waste any more of my time with you.

  38. a scientist and engineer Says:

    Nice personal attack, but you didn’t really address the point. Are we talking about demonizing presidents and anyone who does not praise your rambling, disorganized tirade or what causes gas prices to fluctuate in the US? Are you trying to emulate Rush Limbaugh? It is people like you who give thoughtful, intelligent conservatives a bad name.

    What do the polls about Obama (or any other politicians for that matter) have to do with your fractured argument? I see you even agree with my point about oil refineries but then rant that I have not allowed oil companies to build one! Don’t blame me, I have had nothing to do with that, for or against.

    You are correct that supply and demand do influence the price of goods such as oil. However, when Bush ended the moratorium, the supply of oil did not change one bit. Do you think that the oil companies immediately drilled, struck oil, and transported it to the refineries? If anything realting to the speach caused the change, it was speculation that the oil supply would increase. So, it shows that speculation is a significant factor in oil prices. The other point is that US supply and demand is only a fraction of world supply and demand (albeit a large fraction of demand).

    I am curious what you think of global warming being caused by the accumulation of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. The cause and effect argument is the same (but over a longer period of time). I am not 100% sure of either because they are both extremely complex systems that can not be so easily simplified. They are both points that deserve consideration though. We just need to look at the facts and try and draw proper conclusions.

  39. All RePUGlicans Must Die Says:

    It’s interesting that Eden’s ‘supporting documents’ are all right-wing nut job sites. It’s like asking your mother if you are a great singer. That’s why RePUGlicans have 6-toes, follow NASCAR, and have Rush as their God.

  40. Michael Eden Says:

    Nice personal attack, but you didn’t really address the point

    “a scientist and engineer,”

    First of all, congratulations for being the one-billionth liberal to try to make yourself a pathetic victim of “personal attack.” Liberals are the kind of people who call conservatives “demons” and “terrorists” and then fall on the ground and cry the moment a conservative gives them a dirty look. I’ve written about my disgust of people like you.

    Second, allow me to begin by bringing up just the points that you refuse to acknowledge in my personal response to you – just to document what an abject vile hypocrite you are.

    I point out that “The polls are overwhelming: they show Obama at an all time low over his failure to do a damn thing about gas prices.” And I go on to point out that You don’t deign to mention the fact that I am on the side of the overwhelming majority of Americans, whereas you represent the view of the North Korea “Kim Jong Il for president for life!” minority. As you sanctimoniusly lecture me, “you didn’t really address the point.”

    What do the polls have to do with my “fractured argument”? They document that the American people overwhelmingly affirm “my fractured argument” and shun YOUR view, that’s what they do. What they document is that you are on the minority side of this argument and the burden is on YOU and that it is YOUR side with the “fractured argument.” But here you are idiotically pretending the burden of proof is one me when everybody agrees with me and everybody thinks that people just like YOU are the real problem.

    Interestingly, every single time we get into a real energy crisis, the American people say that people like you are abject dumbasses. EVERY SINGLE TIME. But as I said, “you didn’t really address the point.” You just waved your hand at it.

    I point out “that people are actually starting to hold Obama accountable to his own words.” And how nothing is more fair play than turnabout. And again, “you didn’t really address the point.” You seem to despicably believe that liberals can demonize conservatives but how dare liberals do unto liberals what liberals just did unto them. Don’t you dare tell me that the same damn arguments your side used to demonize my side aren’t valid any more – at least until the next time you damn hypocrite liberals need them again.

    I point out that “Bush ended the moratorium and prices for oil IMMEDIATELY WENT DOWN.” And I have DOCUMENTED THAT FACT THROUGHOUT MY COMMENTS. You and ALL of your fellow liberals have NEVER ONCE EVEN TRIED TO DEAL WITH THAT. Yet again, “you didn’t really address the point.”

    I point out that “Obama could have similarly lowered prices by himself demonstrating he was serious about increasing the oil production that we need rather than demonizing oil and pissing away a hundred billion dollars on failed green boondoggles like Solyndra. But nope: he had an opportunity handed to him on a golden platter – even had a chance to do something his union thug masters wanted – but instead he bowed down to his green crony capitalists.” But let me quote your own snotty words: “you didn’t really address the point.”

    I point out that “Democrats have themselves recognized that increasing supplies will lower prices” and go on to explain at least three ways they are doing that as we speak. And yet again, “”you didn’t really address the point.”

    I interact with your very own point that “several things that influence gas prices; I would add things like lack of US refinery capacity and the age of US refineries (which are frequently down for maintenance or due to accidents) drive up the price of gas…” and point out: “THE OIL REFINERIES ARE OLD BECAUSE YOU DAMN COCKROACH LIBERALS HAVEN’T ALLOWED THE OIL COMPANIES TO BUILD ONE IN FORTY YEARS.” And then I proceed to document my refutation of your idiotic assertion with evidence of my response.

    Don’t you DARE pretend that DEMOCRATS whose side you have taken at every turn are 100% responsible for the strangling of new refineries and Republicans whose side I take have done everything they could to break through the forty-year-long filibuster. But to repeat the refrain, “you didn’t really address the point.” That’s like Bob punching Charlie in the face with a sucker punch and then blaming Charlie for lying on the ground.

    And after simply ignoring EVERY SINGLE DAMN THING I SAID, you actually have the self-righteous, sanctimonious hypocrite chutzpah to barge in on MY blog and tell me, “you didn’t really address the point”???? Are you like a little tiny mouse with giant elephant balls or something?

    You say, “However, when Bush ended the moratorium, the supply of oil did not change one bit.”

    I have on several occassions here – even as I pointed out the SIMPLE DOCUMENTED FACT THAT THE PRICES IMMEDIATELY WENT DOWN WHEN BUSH ENDED THE BAN (see here and here and here (just to show a couple) – explained WHY Bush ending the ban would have caused prices to go down. Which not ONE of you liberals has ever even TRIED to deal with. As I said to YOU, “Prices went down because Bush showed he was serious about allowing oil production to increase.”

    As I quoted an “energy expert” that another liberal said I couldn’t produce, “This would send a very strong signal to the global market that the United States is finally getting serious about producing its own energy resources.”

    I also explained to that liberal, “When Bush ended the moratorium, it was obvious to everyone but a wide-eyed Nancy Pelosi that Democrats would cave in and vote to officially end the moratorium. And everybody knew it who wasn’t either crazy or evil, Jon. The vote by the Democrats controlling Congress just made what everybody knew would happen and the markets had very obviously already largely already acted upon official. Nothing more.

    No, dumbass, I DON’T think that “the oil companies immediately drilled, struck oil, and transported it to the refineries” in the seconds after Bush announced he was ending the ban AND OIL PRICES IMMEDIATELY WENT DOWN NEARLY TEN DOLLARS WHILE BUSH WAS SPEAKING. And I frankly am astounded that you liberals are so toxically ignorant about how commodities are bought and sold that you can’t comprehend this: it’s NOT just the immediate supply that is available on the market today that the market takes into account; it is FUTURE ACCESS TO OIL PRODUCTION.

    If “speculators” believe that oil tomorrow is going to be more scarce, it will drive up the price of oil TODAY as they begin buying oil futures contracts to take advantage of the lower current price thereby driving up the current price.

    In the case of Bush’s announcement, as Bush was speaking, speculators immediately acted upon their belief that America would increase its oil production thereby increasing oil supplies and thereby lowering the future value of oil such that the prices of oil immediately went down.

    And again, how on earth can you be so ignorant not to understand that and then idiotically lecture me???

    As to my views on global warming, I have amply documented them. Just click on the “global warming” link to the right of my blog and you will get ad nauseum of what I think about it and why I think it. That said, here are a couple of (albeit older) articles in which I provided a great deal of research and evidence:

    What the Science REALLY Says About Global Warming
    What You Never Hear About Global Warming

  41. Michael Eden Says:

    All RePUGlicans Must Die,

    I find it fascinating that a guy who literally calls himself “All RePUGlicans Must Die” would decry anybody else’s objectivity. It is a testimony to his belief that only a liberal has the right to be an ideologue.

    But that said, there’s another issue called “the genetic fallacy.” Just because Adolf Hitler says “good morning” it does not make it a logical fact that it must be raining. Only a fool condemns something outright just because of its source.

    (That said, I frequently quote the New York Slimes and even things like the Daily Kos; didn’t know they were “right-wing nut job sites”).

    If I have ANY factual errors, why not prove me wrong and correct me rather than be an abject coward and fool who lives off of stupid left-wing idiot assertions???

    YOU clearly don’t have that capability.

  42. DUMB ONE with POLITICS Says:

    I enjoyed this article and found it fascinating. I am an RN for autistic children who have Medicaid and never really paid much attention to politics until it started affecting my work with this “ObamaCare.” I do not see anything wrong with this article, I see facts and quotes that Obama made, and he hasn’t done anything for this country that I can name off the top of my head. I mean gas prices lowered for what? a month or two?

    Obama seems like he has something up his sleeve and these gas prices and health care subjects are just decoys for what is really going on. This is never how America was suppose to be ran, the people were suppose to have say in everything. Now we can barely afford the grocery store because we have to feed our gas tanks instead, and our healthcare system is complete in the toilet. ( For you who are going to say its not, hold your tongue unless you actually work with it every single day like I do.) I’m not republican and I’m not democrat; I’m just an American who would like to continue living this so called American Dream, if we could ever get it back……. I guess we should have read the fine print when Obama said it’s Time for Change, I guess he meant it wasn’t for the good of this country’s citizens. Let’s change again and maybe this time fix it.

  43. Michael Eden Says:

    At this point – and BECAUSE of ObamaCare, half of all doctors are no longer accepting Medicaid. The reimbursement is too low for them to remain in business even as the paperwork and regulations are too high for them to handle.

    This is par for the course for an administration and a party that believe that all workers – most definitely including medical workers – ought to work as though we live in a Marxist state until we actually GET to the Marxist state they want to impose on us.

    Every time I go to the doctor I mock ObamaCare. And every time I mock ObamaCare to a medical professional I get rolled eyes of contempt over this contemptuous takeover of our health care system and a “Tell me about it.”

    ObamaCare is going to DOUBLE the cost that our liar-in-chief and his lying Democrat Party stooges sold us.

    And as many as 20 million working Americans are going to lose their employer coverage so they can get shunted over to the inferior Medicaid system – you know, the one where HALF OF DOCTORS AREN’T ACCEPTING PATIENTS.

    Everything these pathological weasels said was a complete lie.

    So you aren’t so dumb after all, SMART ONE with POLITICS.

  44. Bill Says:

    I love how you cut out 2007 and 2008 when gas prices under Bush were 3 to 4 dollars a gallon. Way to go with that bias.

  45. Michael Eden Says:

    Bill,

    Excuse me, but“I” didn’t cut out anything. What I DID do was provide an article – which I did not edit in any way, shape or form – that compared the Obama period to the EXACT SAME PERIOD IN BOTH MEN’S PRESIDENCIES.

    Which is to say, because of your incredibly vile liberal bias, you literally believe that comparing the same period of time in Obama’s presidency to the very same period of time in Bush’s presidency is “biased.”

    Further, if you want to talk about incredible selective evidence, why didn’t you choose to mention the FACT that Barack Obama has now boasted about oil production that either A) was the result of BUSH policies:

    From the Miami Herald:

    President Obama criticized Republicans for playing politics over fuel prices when he gave a speech at the University of Miami on Thursday amid a $4 million Florida fundraising spree.

    Obama tried to take credit for increased oil drilling, but never mentioned that it’s largely the result of Bush Administration policies. He talked about oil pipelines from Canada, but he never said “Keystone XL,” the pipeline his administration nixed. And he spoke about the need for alternative energy, but “Solyndra” — the controversial bankrupt solar firm with political ties to Obama — never crossed his lips.

    or B) occurred in state- and privately-owned land which had absolutely NOTHING to do with Obama’s policies (and in fact occurred in SPITE of Obama’s policies):

    From Bloomberg:

    Onshore oil and gas production on federal lands directly under Obama’s control is down 40 percent compared to 10 years ago…

    In a January report, the American Petroleum Institute in Washington said that in two years the number of new leases to drill on federal lands declined 44 percent to 1,053 in 2010. The report blamed “new rules, policies and administrative actions that are not conducive to oil and natural gas production.”

    The very fact that you sanctimoniously accuse me of bias when you are so filled with bias that it is beyond unreal is a statement that you are not worth having any kind of a conversation with.

  46. Betsy Linhares Says:

    Cloak your self in the TRUTH.

  47. Anonymous Says:

    both sides, controlled by the same evil, work together to get things their way

  48. Michael Eden Says:

    The funniest thing I get is when raving liberals start saying, “Both sides are to blame” when THEIR side is in power. You never hear that from them when they’re pouring flaming feces on a Republican president…

    There are a LOT of factors that create high gas prices. Three of them are: 1) monetary inflating policies (i.e., the stimulus, QE1, QE2, etc.). Because oil is a commodity and if the dollar goes down in value, it will cost more dollars to purchase the same amount of oil; 2) the oil supply. Because oil as a commodity very much boils down to supply and demand; and 3) global security. Because when Iran is on the verge of getting a nuclear bomb and can then shut down the Strait of Hormuz with impunity, it’s just really bad for the flow of oil. And as that becomes an increasing likelihood, the markets factor that future risk in terms of higher present costs.

    There are lots of other factors, of course. But those three are pretty big.

    As we speak, gas and oil are going down very slightly. Not because of any policy success, but because the economy is tanking again and therefore reducing consumption. That aint anything to brag about.

  49. Billy NOT Graham! Says:

    What a wasteful use of time & space! If you are angry over high gas prices, then blame OPEC! Any informed individual knows that NO president has that much effect on the price of gas. If you really want to know the truth? I doubt it, because religion as a defense… may GOD forgive you… I WON’T and I DON’T! How offensive! But if you really want to know the truth… & I doubt it! Read the book, “Secrets of the Kingdom” by conservative writer Gerald Posner www,amazon.com/Secrets-Kingdom-Inside-Saudi…/1400062918

  50. Michael Eden Says:

    Billy NOT Graham!,

    Garden variety liberal = somebody who spends eight years demonizing George Bush and then being just beyond outraged that anybody would blame your side for the exact same crap that you spent eight years blaming our side for.

    You are a hypocrite completely lacking in any form of integrity whatsoever trying to denounce my integrity.

    You are a Saul Alinskyite who says, “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” And it works for you BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO ETHICS AND NO MORALS AND THEREFORE NO RULES THAT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW.

    On your cockroach view of reality only your clear moral superiors ought to have any honesty whatsoever. So you demonize us and demonize us and then say how dare you demonize us?!?! The stuff we spent eight years demonizing you about was bogus the whole time we were demonizing you! You can’t do what we did! It’s UNFAIR for you to do what we did!!!

    You follow a president who attacked George Bush over gasoline prices. By YOUR VERY OWN STANDARDS you should be demonizing Obama. But you don’t because that would take integrity and you don’t have any.

    Now get lost.

  51. Sam M. Says:

    You must include the years right before Obama took office to see the trend. Same gos with Bush: you must include Clintons last years as well. And why dose everyone forget that it’s a global market? Comparatively we aren’t doing so bad.

    http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/03/19/447095/the-charts-that-prove-obama-doesnt-set-gas-prices/?mobile=nc

    http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/02/chart-gop-gas-price-attack-obama

    There is a whole other world out there outside of our small opinions. You should check it out.

  52. Michael Eden Says:

    Two things, Sam M.

    1) By your very own point, Democrats and Obama personally are cockroaches.

    http://pushbacknow.net/2012/02/23/democrats-blamed-bush-for-high-gas-prices-but-not-obama/
    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/pelosi-blamed-oil-men-white-house-gas-prices-08-now-who-s-blame
    http://www.allamericanblogger.com/15310/flashback-obama-2008-blames-bush-and-cheney-for-high-oil-prices-promises-change/

    Those just being a few snowflakes in an avalanche of blame. I draw particular attention to the third link at the bottom which features Obama on tape doing the very thing you say is so wrong.

    Inherent in your argument is the idea that Democrats are cockroaches. They are vermin. And if Republicans act as vile as Democrats, this republic is lost. Only Democrats therefore ought to be able to be depraved and unfairly blame. And of course I ask where the hell were YOU when Democrats and when Obama did all this? You were voting for them and supporting them in their false blame, weren’t you????

    I wrote an article titled, “Do Unto Obama As Liberals Did Unto Bush.” I stand by every word. If you firebomb our cities, don’t think that we won’t start rising up and firebombing the hell out of your cities. And you can come back and say, “Geez, this firebombing is just so wrong” while your cities are in ruins and nobody will care BECAUSE YOU STARTED THE DAMN FIREBOMBING IN THE FIRST PLACE AND YOU DESERVE TO BE HUNG ON YOUR OWN DAMN PETARD.

    2) Your chart shows that oil prices tend to rise around the world. Great. One thing, though: America is and has been the leader of the free world. The actions that America takes can therefore cause global prices to either go up or go down.

    3) One example of Democrats continuing to blame Bush for events that took place all over the world (just like oil prices) is the 2008 recession. The real estate bubble didn’t just happen in America. It happened all over the world. As we speak, Spain is in the news needing a bailout. They had a real estate collapse in Spain just like America. But here dirtbags like yourself are saying, “You can’t blame Obama for a phenomena that happened all over the world when at the very moment you say it your side continues year after year to blame Bush for a phenomena that happened all over the world. I keep pointing out the fact that the quintessential essence of liberalism is abject personal hypocrisy because it is true.

    3) Your chart also fails to account for what is documented historical fact about oil prices:

    Larry Kudlow: In a dramatic move yesterday President Bush removed the executive-branch moratorium on offshore drilling. Today, at a news conference, Bush repeated his new position, and slammed the Democratic Congress for not removing the congressional moratorium on the Outer Continental Shelf and elsewhere. Crude-oil futures for August delivery plunged $9.26, or 6.3 percent, almost immediately as Bush was speaking, bringing the barrel price down to $136.

    Oil industry experts pointed out when Bush lifted the ban that it would have the positive impact that it in fact did as documented above:

    Democrats in Congress, joined by environmentalists, criticized the step and ridiculed it as ineffectual, while most Republicans and industry representatives applauded it as long overdue. [...]

    “With this action, the executive branch’s restrictions on this exploration have been cleared away,” he said Monday. “This means that the only thing standing between the American people and these vast oil resources is action from the U.S. Congress.”

    Mr. Bush’s decision was welcomed by industry representatives. Brian J. Kennedy of the Institute for Energy Research in Washington, which favors opening the shelf, said lifting the presidential ban would focus attention on the need for Congress to act, easing the speculative pressure driving up the cost of oil.

    “This would send a very strong signal to the global market that the United States is finally getting serious about producing its own energy resources,” he said.

    I document this point further in this comment.

    Frankly, when liberals like yourself come here and whine about how you don’t like us doing the same exact damn thing that you just got through doing to us and implicitly acknowleding that, yes, you liberals are an evil species, it really just helps to brighten my day.

  53. Anonymous Says:

    Cute picture but what happened to the rest of Bushes term you know when gas prices skyrocketed

  54. Michael Eden Says:

    I think I’ve had to explain this before: the chart compared apples to apples, which is to say that the chart compared the SAME period in Obama’s presidency with the same IDENTICAL period of Bush’s presidency.

    But let’s talk about the price of gas that George W. Bush handed Barack Obama. On January 19, 2009, a gallon of gas cost $1.89 a gallon.

    So if you truly want to talk about “skyrocketing gas prices,” you really need to look at Barack Obama.

  55. You'reAShill Says:

    A few things:

    You can’t compare data 8 years removed, it would be more prudent to view the data of the last 2 years of Bush’s presidency with Obama’s first 2 – 2001 is not 2008.

    You also need to provide more data between the correlation of gas prices and a major economic downturn. You completely fail to note the rapid increase of gas prices from 2006 (market speculation) until it’s sudden drop in late 2008 when the economy shit the bed and world markets fell. If you ignore the data, you’re just another shill.

    At the moment you’re providing a very narrow, selective viewpoint. You’re manipulating data to fuel your own argument rather than taking the whole picture of what could have caused the prices to rise and fall. Personally, I don’t blame any president for the high prices of gasoline, the market is now run by speculation – that more so than anything else drives the price of oil.

    How could we lower gas?

    Go back to pre 2006:

    http://media.mcclatchydc.com/smedia/2011/05/13/16/20110513_OILPRICES.large.prod_affiliate.91.jpg

    Or

    Tank the economy again:

    Job Loss/Growth
    http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/bikini-graph-April-2012-Via-Steve-Benen-at-the-Maddow-Blog1.jpg

    Gas Prices
    http://www.sundriesshack.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Gas-Prices-2008-2012-500×242.gif

    You’re probably right though, it’s not at all like you could superimpose those two graphs on top of each other and have them match…

    Must be a big [deleted due to the poster's inability to control his filthy language] coincidence, let’s just go back to blaming Obama while discounting reason and facts.

  56. Michael Eden Says:

    A few things,

    Number one, you are an abject hypocrite. When Democrats were demonizing Bush over high gas prices, YOU DIDN’T SEE THINGS THIS WAY, you turd.

    I’ve posted the video before of Barack Obama personally demonizing George Bush over high gas prices and promising under his regime things would be better. And the simple fact of the matter is that you support the very thing you denounce as “discounting reason and facts” when it works for YOUR ideology. So just shut the hell up.

    Here’s some video for you, hypocrite:

    So at the very best, your screed amounts to, “How DARE you to us what we did to you. We Democrats are COCKROACHES! We’re demon-possessed swine! You should EXPECT us to act like vermin. But you Republicans are morally superior to us in every way, shape and form, which is why it’s now WRONG for you to do to us what WE did to you!”

    If you people were capable of shame, you’d be ashamed of yourselves for actually daring to have the chutzpah you display here. Sadly, you are incapable of the virtue of shame.

    You tell me that employment is just so great now. Idiot.

    I just laugh at you; Obama has had 27 months of job growth, we’re told. That’s just wonderful, we’re told. Meanwhile the 52 consecutive months of job growth under Bush was awful, and don’t you dare consider that it was almost TWICE the streak messiah Obama has.

    US News and World Report:

    Economy Made Few Gains in Bush Years”, declared the Washington Post earlier this week. And while the story grudgingly acknowledged the 52-straight months of job growth, it dismissed any economic gains as the ephemeral product of the housing bubble and wild-spending consumers. Except … that worker productivity — the most important long-term indicator of the core health and competitiveness of an economy — has risen at a really impressive 2.6 annual rate during the Bush years vs. 2.0 percent for Clinton and 1.6 percent for Reagan. (That factoid from the Wall Street Journal.) This is important stuff. It’s one big reason why the World Economic Forum says the U.S. has the most competitive economy in the world. The economic rebound after the pro-growth 2003 tax cuts was no mirage.

    George Bush’s average unemployment rate was 5.2%, but you demonized him and continue to demonize him as the worst president ever. In spite of the fact that he inherited the Clinton recession AKA the Dotcom bubble which vaporized $7.1 TRILLION in American wealth and annihlated 78% of the Nasdaq Exchange valuation. Oh, and let’s not forget the catastrophic double-whammy recession caused by 9/11 which was ALSO caused by Bill Clinton’s gutting of the military and intelligence and embolding Osama bin Laden who declared because of Clinton’s fiasco in Somalia that America was a paper tiger.

    Bush took us from that catastrophe to an AVERAGE of 5.2% unemployment and 52 consecutive months of job growth. What has Obama done?

    If you are smart enough to do the math, Obama’s average unemployment rate is 9.2%. That’s much better than Bush’s 5.2% to abject fools like yourself.

    We conservatives shouted from every rooftop that the Obama stimulus would be a giant failure. You idiot liberals gave us all kinds of promises that if we followed messiah Obama, unemployment would never go over 8% and it would be well under 6% by June of 2012. We were totally right and you were totally wrong, but now let’s disregard all your promises and lies and instead blame Bush four years, eight years, how ever many years it works later and blame everybody BUT Obama and his failed policies and keep demanding more of the same while you characterize the policies that actually GAVE us low employment “the same failed policies of the past.”

    Yeah, those “failed policies” were just so terrible when Ronald Reagan kicked Carter’s ass and then completely transformed the American economy from the hell Democrats created. Reagan did so terrible that according to Gallup Americans say he was the greatest president in American history – over LINCOLN.

    For the record, Obama aint likely to kick Reagan off his mantle of “greatest president in HISTORY.” 43% of true Marxist believers approve of him, versus the 49% who realize that he sucks rotten eggs.

    Oh, such failure!!! Please let us NEVER go back to the awful days of prosperity which Clinton continued only because he stated that “the era of big government is over” and governed largely with Republican policies under a Republican House and a Republican Senate after getting his ass handed to him in 1994 because he and the Democrat Party had FAILED just like they’re failing NOW.

    If anyone would like to understand what happened in 2008 when the economy crashed and which party is to mostly blame for that collapse, read this. And read these:

    More Proof Democrats Destroyed The Economy In 2008: The Ongoing Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac Disaster

    Why Did Our Economy Melt Down In 2008? (Email This To Your Friends)

    US Is in Even Worse Shape Financially Than Greece. And Why Is That In The Age Of Obama???

    How Should Democrats Eat The Half-Trillion $ Monsters Fannie And Freddie? One Bite At A Time

    It Was DEMOCRATS Who Blew Up Our Economy In 2008

    Basically, when you learn the FACTS, you will find out that it was primarily Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac – which controlled over HALF of the mortgages in America – that created the housing bubble which collapsed. You will find that Democrats protected the GSEs – which were stuffed with Democrats – and marched in lock step to prevent Republicans from being able to regulate them in any way, shape or form. You will find that George Bush tried SEVENTEEN TIMES to reform and regulate Fannie and Freddie. You will find that John McCain wrote a letter predicting the collapse and urging Congress to take action (which Democrats of course blocked). You will find that shortly before leaving office Bill Clinton massively expanded the program of using Fannie and Freddie to provide loans to minorities and poor who could not possibly pay them back. You will find that Fannie and Freddie were the ONLY entities who were allowed to bundle thousands of these mortgages into mortgage backed securities and then sell them to private entities such as Lehman Brothers under the myth that the GSEs were backed by the government. You will find that the 2008 collapse occurred because these Fannie and Freddie-bundled mortgage backed securities were filled with toxic loans and that because there was no possible way for anyone to separate the good mortgages from the bad the whole securities were in doubt. You find that Barack Obama not only took more campaign donations from Fannie and Freddie in a shorter time than any politician in American history, but he also took more campaign donations from Lehman Bros. in a shorter period of time than any politician in history. And you will find Democrats being wildly wrong in their predictions about Fannie and Freddie’s health right before their demise and collapse which TRIGGERED the private sector’s collapse.

    You will find Democrats and Democrat policies pretty much behind everything leading up to the 2008 collapse.

    But let’s talk about NOW.

    You seriously want to boast of Obama’s job numbers – which are plummeting as you do it???

    EVERY number is getting revised down under Obama’s propaganda releases.

    Obama’s labor participation rate has gone from worse to AWFUL worse every year of his presidency. If you had a functioning brain cell in your head, you’d acknowledge the radical failure of Obama’s policies. If Obama were measured according to the same participation rate he INHERITED from George Bush, his actual unemployment rate would be well over 11 percent now. The ONLY reason unemployment is “only” 8.2% is because MILLIONS have simply given up bothering to try to find a job in Obama’s failed economy and dropped out of the u-3 calcuation. My God, 88 million working age Americans aren’t working under your turd.

    Hell, as I write this, I note that the DOW just dropped 250 points under TERRIBLE economic news with every number across the board just being AWFUL. Congratulations on Obama’s fine work is in order.

    I’m not going to waste another nanosecond on you. When you introduce yourself by demonizing what your side just got through doing, you are simply not worth talking to.

  57. Anonymous Says:

    gas prices went down doing the 2008 election, they stayed under 3.00 untll th republicans won the house in 2010. NOW 2012 the price is going down what is the common factor?

  58. Michael Eden Says:

    Anonymous,

    First of all, DUMBASS! You are a poster boy for why I can’t stand arguing with liberals.

    If the Republican Congress is to blame for gasoline prices being over $3.00 after they took the House in 2010, THEN WHY THE HELL AREN’T THE DEMOCRATS TO BLAME FOR THE SKY-HIGH GAS PRICES WHEN THEY TOOK THE HOUSE IN 2006? DUMBASS! THE DEMOCRATS NOT ONLY CONTROLLED THE HOUSE AFTER THE 2006 ELECTIONS, BUT THE DAMNED SENATE TOO!!!

    Dumbass! It was Bush’s fault because he was president until Obama was president. Then it was STILL Bush’s fault because Obama is your god and it is blasphemy to criticize your god. So it was Bush’s fault until Republicans took half the Congress and then it was the Republicans’ fault even though it wasn’t the Democrats’ fault even though they controlled ALL of Congress when gas prices got to over $4 a gallon and EVERY DEMOCRAT WAS BLAMING BUSH.

    Arguing with you people is like arguing with criminally insane cockroaches. There is simply no point in it.

    I argued when Obama took office that Republicans should “Do Unto Obama As Liberals Did Unto Bush.” What comes around goes around. The crap you force others to eat is the same crap YOU ought to be forced to eat. So I gave you helpings of what you force fed us for eight years. And the only thing you have documented year after year is that liberals are too hypocritical and too dishonest to even BEGIN to accept the same denunciations they handed out by the ton only a few years ago.

    Here’s an article I wrote six months BEFORE the November 2010 election: I point out that under Obama, gas prices had risen an astonishing 55% from when Bush left office.

    The other thing is that you’re not even correct in your facts because facts don’t matter to you: gasoline went above $3 a gallon BEFORE REPUBLICANS EVEN TOOK OFFICE. And if you want to blame Republicans for what happened between the election and when Republicans took office, fine; just be honest and consistent for ONCE in your miserable insect life to hold Obama and Democrats responsible for the period the day after THEY took over in November 2008. Do you know what the unemployment rate was the last period before Obama took office and businesses knew they were screwed and headed south? It was 6.5 percent.

    I would LOVE that trade. Obama and the Democrats who owned both the House AND the Senate being held responsible for the massive increase from 6.5% unemployment under Bush to God damn America under Obama.

    Not that you have ever been capable of intellectual honesty so much as one single day of your life.

    The FACT of the matter is that experts were predicting gas prices would rise “solidly above $3 a gallon” in May of 2010 as a result of the Obama’s-watch Louisiana oil spill catastrophe. And that was BEFORE the election, you dumbass.

    Now get lost, you abject loser. Arguing with you is a complete waste of time.

  59. Nik Says:

    Hmm…well the way I remember things (and forgive me because I may have been a bit out of the loop as I was living in a pretty small military town at the time) but before the war started, it was around $1.25. Went up a bit after it started to about $1.95. Katrina hit in what 2005? That is when I saw prices start to really go up around J-ville. Got up to around $4 before people started putting a bit of a smackdown on the stations being assholes. Went back down to around $2.25 I think. I never saw it above 2.50 before 2008 but then again I was not in any major cities.

  60. Michael Eden Says:

    Nik,

    I actually prefer documented facts to people’s memories. I also prefer simply considering national averages to memories of local price situations which may have virtually NOTHING to do with the rest of the nation. That’s just me.

    I don’t mean to try to smack you down; frankly I’m not even sure what you’re point is – which probably means that you’re not being an ideologue either way.

    When George Bush took office, the national average price for gas was $1.40; when he left office and Obama came in, it was $1.85. In between, as we know, it went up to something like $4.14 and Democrats pounced all over Bush and it was all Bush’s fault and it was the fault of Bush and Republicans all across the board.

    Now, for some inexplicable reason, Democrats refuse to eat the dish they served to Bush and Republicans every single day.

    Even now, with oil prices having come down due to the terrible economy, gas prices are still going on DOUBLE what they were when Obama came into office. And the same people who demonized George Bush need to wear that. Whether they like it or not.

    And Obama was ONE of those demagogues who is now a complete hypocrite.

    That’s the bottom line.

  61. David Olson Says:

    Republicans say it’s the Democrats’ fault. Democrats say it’s the Republicans’ fault. People love to throw around the liberal and conservative tags, but most people don’t even fully understand what they mean. I’m not Republican or Democrat. I’m not even a libertarian. I guess if I have to have a label, I’d be independent.

    All that said, the price of oil is definitely effected by domestic and foreign policies of both the Executive and Legislative branches, but it is also effected by the global economy, foreign governments, energy technology, energy production, oil speculation, OPEC, and other factors I can’t currently remember. My point is it does no good to use the price of oil to determine which party or political viewpoint is right or wrong.

  62. Michael Eden Says:

    David Olson,

    Here’s a great way for you to prove you’re neither a Republican or Democrat, etc. etc.

    SHOW ME WHERE YOU DEFENDED BUSH AND THE REPUBLICANS WHEN GAS PRICES WERE HIGH ON THEIR WATCH.

    I’m guessing you’re not nearly so “independent” that you bothered to do that when it was Bush’s and Republicans heads on the line. Somehow, in spite of all of your self-righteous hoity-toity “independence,” you only care when it’s Obama’s and the Democrats who are being held accountable to the demonization that they piled on the GOP just a few years back.

    My point is that you are just another dishonest hack who is trying to falsely represent yourself as something you aint.

    It’s the easiest thing in the world for hypocrites to do: be a left-wing hater while Bush is president and then suddenly – to use a favorite Obama phrase – “fundamentally transform” into a beacon of moderation and tolerance when YOUR guy is in office.

    I’ve written about swine like you. You’re a dime a trillion.

  63. Buzz Says:

    I do believe some proofreading is in order…the time frames cannot be in months because NEITHER served 26 MONTHS…can we try weeks???

  64. Michael Eden Says:

    Buzz,

    26 months amounts to 2 years and two months. Bush served 96 months, and at this point Obama has served about 42 months.

    You’re clearly not a dumb guy; your writing is certainly intelligent enough. But I think you had a “brain fart” there.

  65. Justathought Says:

    Check out http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/01/business/gas-prices-are-out-of-any-presidents-control.html for a nice analysis of this whole crazy talk.

  66. Michael Eden Says:

    Gee, Justathought,

    Don’t you feel like a hypocrite posting an article from the New York Times that finally decides – HAVING NEVER HAD IT OCCUR TO THEM WHEN BUSH WAS PRESIDENT AND WHEN BUSH WAS GETTING DEMONIZED FOR GAS PRICES – that high gas prices are really out of a president’s control after all???

    It never ceases to amaze me how the call for reason only comes out AFTER Democrats got themselves into office by demonizing Republicans.

    You people and your propaganda press-piece New York Slimes disgust me.

    When George Bush was president, Barack Obama made all kinds of statements about gas prices, debts, deficits, debt ceilings, Gitmo, the war in Afghanistan, you pretty much name it, by which he should be impeached by his very own damn rhetoric today. The only reason that Obama is even still in office given his disgraceful performance is that people like YOU are abject moral hypocrites who hold the other party to an utterly impossible standard and then loudly proclaim that the standard you held that other party to should never be applied to yourselves.

    I’m here to hold Barack Obama accountable to Barack Obama. And it just pisses you off to no end, doesn’t it, hypocrite???

  67. J-Ho Says:

    That’s a disingenuous comparison. Who cares about “the first 26 months”. Let’s look at the time at the end of Bush’s last term and how the beginning of Obama’s term changed prices. But even that is skewed since the world economy imploded at the end of Bush’s last term tanking oil prices.

    Looking that way gas under Bush during the Summer of 08 was over $4/gal and Obama’s first spring was around $2.70/gal. A huge change but skewed due to “the Bush Recession”.

    If you are discussing gas prices without assigning as the largest reason gas prices are higher because of Demand by China, american oil companies exporting more oil to China than ever before, and the explosion of american drilling operations (yes we have more rigs
    drilling than ever before in history).

    Yes, more drilling in america means higher gas prices. Oil prices have risen due to China’s energy demands. EXXON sees high prices and sees $$$ so they drill everywhere. In the US supply has increased and demand has fallen. Which should plummet gas/gal, but EXXON sees more $. EXXON sells all this extra supply to China who pays premium money it… because they make a lot of money on the deal and the supply problem goes away keeping gas prices high in the US.

    Result: very very huge record profits every quarter for EXXON and still-high gas prices for Americans even though the American economy is weak and demand is not there.

    Solution: well, the way gas prices fall is for either oil companies stop shipping excess supply overseas – oh wait China still demands oil and will still pay to get it keeping prices high since this is a global market.

    Solution: China’s demand falls – oh wait, China’s demand falls and the crippled weak economies of Europe and the US plummet again because this is a global economy.

    Solution: We build a time machine and go back 20 years and stop shipping manufacturing to China so we don’t become so dependent on China’s goods. We did pretty well as a country for a lot of years without needing China to make everything for us. But then corporations wouldn’t go from making millions in profit to billions in profit (where most of the windfalls going to the top echelon of the corp.) and use that clout and money and power to buy Congress and the Supreme Court to green light more corporate welfare, tax loopholes for the 1%, and unlimited campaign contributions to have more money and power and clout to buy our politicians for more tax breaks to get more money and … You get the point.

    I gotta go… Going to work on building a time machine.

  68. Michael Eden Says:

    That’s a disingenuous comparison

    J-Ho,

    With all due respect, just how much of a dumbass are you?

    Just what are we supposed to do: compare the end of Barack Obama’s second term to the end of George Bush’s second term??? Are you that stupid that you think we can do that, are you?

    The reason the source considered the first 26 months of Obama’s term IS BECAUSE OBAMA HAD ONLY BEEN PRESIDENT FOR 26 MONTHS. Is that rocket science for you? Is this like explaining physics to my dog?

    The reason the source compared the first 26 months of Bush to the first 26 months of Obama is that the first 26 months of Obama was the only thing it could compare Bush TO, because Obama had only been in office for 26 months.

    I’d say comparing the first period of someone’s presidency to the first period of someone’s presidency is the most “apples to apples” comparison possible. Whereas YOU want to cherry pick and find the worst possible period of Bush and arbitrarily make that your comparison.

    The fact of the matter is we don’t KNOW what gas prices will be at the end of Obama’s second term, do we, dumbass, BECAUSE WE DON’T HAVE CRYSTAL BALLS, do we???

    So you go get lost and build that time machine, you idiot. Because your time machine will be the ONLY way that the first 26 months of each presidency will be a “disingenuous comparison.”

    That said, somewhere in one of these comments I actually took the time to look at the increase in gas prices considering the end of Bush’s presidency – the entire eight years – and your messiah STILL looked like feces in the comparison.

    The only thing that annoys me more than stupid people is stunningly ARROGANT stupid people who proceed to lecture me from their stupidity – which means pretty much all liberals annoy me.

    The last thing to consider is the little factoid that gas prices spiked for a limited period of time when Bush was president, and then went DOWN. WAY DOWN, in fact. Gas was well under $2.00 a gallon when Obama took office. Versus your messiah for whom gas prices went up, and then up, and then up and up and up, and have barely come down and will be sky high for basically Obama’s presidency and will be stratospherically high if he gets re-elected and we DO have the end of Obama’s second term for a valid comparison to the end of Bush’s second term.

  69. Golden Says:

    Data: Weekly Gas Price Averages from Jan 1, 1996 – Jul 16, 2012
    Source: US Energy Information Administration.
    Format: Excel spreadsheet

    Jan 1, 1996 – Dec 25, 2000
    Average Gas Price for 261 weeks : $1.39
    (5 years under Clinton)

    Jan 1, 2001 – Dec 29, 2008
    Average Gas Price for 418 weeks : $2.33
    (8 years under Bush)

    Jan 1, 2009 – Jul 16, 2012
    Average Gas Price for 185 weeks : $3.25
    (About 3.5 years under Obama)

    From Clinton to Bush, Gas rose .94 cents
    2.33 – 1.39 = .94

    From Bush to Obama, Gas has risen .92 cents
    3.25 – 2.33 = .92

    Clinton’s first 3 years :
    After reviewing several historical charts, it was clear that the price of gas was less than the average of $1.39. Had the data been available to easily download, then the Clinton average would have been a little lower. Never the less, the difference between 5 years of Clinton and 8 years of Bush is .94 cents. (But, it’s probably more like .99 cents.)

    As of July 2012, Obama’s time frame is running .92 cents greater than the Bush years.

  70. Michael Eden Says:

    Golden,

    That’s interesting. Interested in the gas prices prior to your range (i.e. prior to 1996), I found this link.

    It’s interesting to go back to the Clinton years. Because Bill Clinton is a guy who said Obama’s delays on allowing leases and drilling permits was “ridiculous.”

    Bill Clinton: Drilling delays ‘ridiculous’
    By DARREN GOODE | 3/11/11 4:55 PM EDT

    Former President Bill Clinton said Friday that delays in offshore oil and gas drilling permits are “ridiculous” at a time when the economy is still rebuilding, according to attendees at the IHS CERAWeek conference.

    Clinton spoke on a panel with former President George W. Bush that was closed to the media. Video of their moderated talk with IHS CERA Chairman Daniel Yergin was also prohibited.

    But according to multiple people in the room, Clinton, surprisingly, agreed with Bush on many oil and gas issues, including criticism of delays in permitting offshore since last year’s Gulf of Mexico spill.

    “Bush said all the things you’d expect him to say” on oil and gas issues, said Jim Noe, senior vice president at Hercules Offshore and executive director of the pro-drilling Shallow Water Energy Security Coalition. But Clinton added, “You’d be surprised to know that I agree with all that,” according to Noe and others in the room.

    Clinton said there are “ridiculous delays in permitting when our economy doesn’t need it,” according to Noe and others.

    There’s no question that Clinton made some statements that conservatives found outrageous on energy policy. The Kyoto Treaty – which Clinton signed AND NOT ONE SINGLE DEMOCRAT IN THE SENATE WOULD VOTE FOR – is one example. But that was largely symbolic. Clinton was all in favor of the domestic drilling that conservatives most demand.

    Don’t believe me?

    Here’s another example expressed in the outrage of the San Francisco Chronicle:

    THE CLINTON administration’s extension of 36 offshore oil leases along the Central California coast needs to be challenged with every available legal tool. In extending the leases, Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt has effectively given oil companies the go-ahead to begin plans for drilling in virgin waters between Port Hueneme and San Luis Obispo.

    Liberls want alternative energy? Let them have it. Just don’t subsidize the piss out of it. Put your OWN money where your mouths are if you want “green energy” and think its viable, liberals. If you’re right, you’ll all be rich and us stupid conservatives would have missed the boat, wouldn’t we? Instead, what the left does is say, “We’re not going to waste any of our own money on this fraudulent energy boondoggle. Instead lets force the taxpayers to do it for us!” It’s immoral.

    What we demand is continued development of our own domestic oil resources. Just like Bill Clinton gave us.

    Clinton’s policies were very much like Bush’s in terms of domestic oil production. So to argue that “under Clinton, gas prices were good, so Democrat policies work” is hardly a relevant point. Obama’s policies are the exact OPPOSITE OF CLINTON’S when it comes to the most important energy issues. Which is why we are right to oppose Obama.

  71. Golden Says:

    Follow up…
    Michael Eden provided a link that allowed me to get data into Microsoft Excel going back to April 5, 1993. (The initial link that I visited only went back to Jan 1, 1996.)

    April 5, 1993 – Dec 25, 2000
    404 weeks
    Average Gas Price for 404 weeks : $1.29
    (Approximately 8 years under Clinton)

    2.33 – 1.29 = $1.04

    From Clinton to Bush, comparing 8 year time spans, Gas rose $1.04.

    Obviously, there are many, many factors… Wars, Global Demand, Cost of Drilling, OPEC Policy, etc.

    I was just curious as to what the raw math would show.

    Note: For mathematical comparison purposes, Inflation is not a factor from 1993 to 2011. The highest level of Inflation was in 2008 and it was 3.85%. The majority of the other years between 1993 and 2011 were below 3%.

    To recap:
    Average Gas for 404 weeks under Clinton : $1.29
    Average Gas for 418 weeks under Bush : $2.33
    Average Gas for 185 weeks under Obama : $3.25

  72. Michael Eden Says:

    Golden,

    My recap would be slightly different, because again this isn’t “Republican” and “Democrat” or even Clinton and Bush and Obama; it is about policies that either favor or punish oil and which either seek to expand or limit access to oil:

    Average Gas for 822 weeks under presidents who encouraged domestic oil production: $1.81
    Average Gas for 185 weeks under Obama: $3.25

  73. Tired of the negative crap Says:

    Every time someone disagrees with you, you get mad and call them really ugly names. I’m surprised that you haven’t had a heart attack or stroke yet.

  74. Michael Eden Says:

    Every time someone disagrees with you, you get mad and call them really ugly names.

    Tired of the negative crap,

    I’m glad you posted your comment immediately before Golden posted twice and I responded twice so that people could see that what you say is a lie. I disagreed with Golden and yet didn’t call him any ugly names.

    Which means what you are engaging in is deceitful. And accusing me in such a “straw man” manner of being ugly is ITSELF ugly. So as usual, the left is being ugly to me while whining about my being ugly.

    At least you were a smart enough turd to not directly call me a name while demonizing me for calling names. Because usually I get this:

    Michael Eden upholds the sterotype of all rightwing fringe lunatics I have had the unfortunate time on this earth to have known. He is a rabid Fox News watcher, name caller of people he’s nevr met,, and hater of anyone who isn’t the Koolade drinker he is. Eden is one of the many reasons the once GOP continues to shrink in numbers. Congrats Mikee….you contributed to the dumbing down of America.

    I respond to this liberal, as I do to so many others, by pointing out what an abject HYPOCRITE he is being. The turd above literally calls me two ugly names, then attacks me for my name calling, then calls me two more ugly names. And I have absolutely no doubt that he is completely morally incapable of seeing his giant hypocrisy.

    And neither are you, I warrant.

    I’ve already documted that you are one of the very turds you’re attacking me for being, Mr. “Tired of the negative crap.” Otherwise you wouldn’t have resorted to such obviously false rhetoric that “Every time someone disagrees with me” I lose it when that is clearly not true. You are just one more drop of pee in a piss ocean of liberals who constantly whines every time a conservative calls somebody “really ugly names” while you’re happy as a frog in a pond with all the “really ugly names” YOUR side is engaging in every day.

    YOUR president just got through calling Mitt Romney all but a murderer for killing Joe Soptic’s wife. It doesn’t get any uglier than this. That ad is so profoundly inaccurate and ugly it is unreal; but YOU are going to vote for him anyway because you are nothing but an abject hypocrite.

    I wrote an article titled, “Do Unto Obama As Liberals Did Unto Bush.” My point hasn’t changed a bit: these vicious tactics work, and it’s time to fight this war according to the terms that the enemy (that’s YOU) have used. If you firebomb our cities, we will damn well firebomb YOUR cities. We are at total war – and that is EXACTLY the way your side is waging it.

    Maybe some day both sides will call a truce and restore the national dialogue, but until that day, I will NOT be lectured by a hypocrite like you.

    Now, I’ve responded to you. I block every single turd who commnents to an article that makes an argument and then refuses to address the actual POINT and solely attacks me personally, as you did. So buh-bye.

  75. Anonymous Says:

    why are you people arguing with this idiot is beyond me. Yaesuman Bill had the best argument and this moron didnt listen so why should you. I believe this is how the pseudo communist party in Russia started with the false promise of a better tomorrow as others climbed to the top tier of society with all others being equal. ah how soon we forget. I love morons like this, they make the world go round.

  76. Anonymous Says:

    are you trying to say that the oil companies are holding us hostage until we do as they want which is to let them drill where the want and then they will lower the price of gas as a reward? Do you have some kind of stake in that reward of what? seems to me that you only address the issues and points you want to make without the representation of fact only the facts as you see them. just saying. and those ads are from super pacs not the president I guess that is also not in you FACTS right.we shall see if you post since I neither hate nor like obama just a middle guy out for me.

  77. Michael Eden Says:

    I had to go back and find who the hell your “Yaesuman Bill” was. His argument was so memorable that you didn’t have anything to say about it other than that it was “the best.” WHY do you think it was the best? In what way did I not listen, given I offered a response at length to it? How was my response not adequate? Why would you say that?

    Your phrase, “Pseudo communist” party screams one thing: that you are a true believer in communism but say that the Russians didn’t do it right.

    It’s like a religious faith with Marxist true believers like you; communism came down from heaven, it is perfect. But mortal man didn’t get it right. So no matter how many times it fails and no matter how badly it fails, well, if at first (if at a million times!) you don’t succeed and leave misery and tyranny in your wake, well, try try again. Marxism invariably leads to Stalinism, to Maoism, to what Pol Pot did, to what we’ve seen in North Korea, for one very simple reason: it is demonic.

    Now, in your next comment, you say, “are you trying to say that the oil companies are holding us hostage until we do as they want which is to let them drill where the want and then they will lower the price of gas as a reward?” All that statement represents is your abject ignorance about the free market economics you despise. It’s not “oil companies lowering the price of gas as a reward,” you idiot. It’s something called “the LAW of supply and demand.” It’s the increased stability of the American oil market, knowing that the US will have its own supply while the rest of the world counts on the Middle East for their oil. It’s also doing things like ending the stupid and frankly evil ethanol boondoggle in which we are forced to put EXPENSIVE corn in our gas and literally burn food that starving people need as fuel. Because right now there isn’t ENOUGH corn to make ethanol, but your idiot ilk are STILL forcing the oil companies to add ethanol and then fining them for not adding the ethanol that there is not enough of to add. Meanwhile the UN is begging Obama to please stop starving children to death.

    The free market system understands that man is fallen and prone to evil. It therefore enacts a system in which it is in evil man’s own selfish interests to keep prices low and customer service high. Whereas the system YOU want – communism – believes that government and bureaucrats are inherently good and that more government and more bureaucrats is inherently better. And then as your government gets more and more evil – because people ARE evil just as I said above – you get an evil government with all the power that no one can fight or resist or replace. Which is precisely what has happened every single time communism has ever been tried.

    I can’t say the feeling is mutual, because I DEFINTELY DON’T “love morons like you.”

  78. Donald Monchil Says:

    This has been such an informative read that I have to try to keep this on hand for a little ammunition for the next time I have someone tell me that the president has Nothing to do with the High gas prices. A VERY BIG THANKS to Michael Eden for all of his posts and well written information backing it up with examples and Facts.

  79. Michael Eden Says:

    Donald Monchil,

    All you have to do to know that Barack Hussein Obama is completely responsible for the fact that gas prices have more than DOUBLED under his watch is watch his own rhetoric against George Bush.

    By Obama’s own measure shall Obama be judged.

  80. BJH Says:

    Michael,

    I can agree with you on the supply/demand argument in the setting of oil prices and subsequently the price of gas. As long as India and China have HUGE appetites for oil, the price per barrel will remain high and thus gas prices will be high…i.e., supply and demand.
    Interesting thing is that even if we allowed the complete drilling and draining of domestic oil, the price wouldn’t change as the demand by China/India would take the excess. Oil companies aren’t idiots…they’ll sell at the price set by international markets instead of the altruistic alternative of selling it at home.
    The only way to break this chain of being charged by international markets is to declare petroleum products as a national resource. That way, oil companies (US ONLY) would be able to drill and recover all they want with the price set by congress (and before you all go crazy, you could easily set the price to half of the international market and everyone still wins BIG…it only takes $3 a barrel to get oil out of the ground and $30 to get it out of the ocean floor. Thus Exxon would only have a profit range of $100 billion instead of $245 billion but who cares?). Now you have gas that is $2 a gallon and everyone is happy (well maybe not Exxon). AND if you did what Pickens has suggested in taking I believe 10 million 18-wheel trucks and converting them to NG/NGL, we would have an oil reserve that would be unreal.
    So, is this “big government” getting involved in the “free” market? To a degree, yes. But the better news is that it would take us out of the influence of the international markets and in fact we could sell some oil (as a country) and pay down our debt in a heartbeat.

    As to the comments about Obama and gas prices, I don’t hold Bush responsible for the $4/gal prices in his term any more than I hold Obama responsible now. I invite you to visit http://www2.wsls.com/news/2012/feb/21/fact-check-allens-criticism-gas-prices-obama-ar-1705471/ which will tell you (as many such neutral analysis sites will) :

    “Now, is President Obama to blame for the hike in gas prices? PolitiFact Virginia consulted several experts in the energy field who said no. Patrick DeHaan, a senior petroleum analyst at gasbuddy.com, said, “(The president) has very little control over gas prices. It has less to do with the president’s policies and more to do with supply and demand and the fundamentals of the industry.” While another noted that gas hit an all time high under former President George W. Bush. That was in 2008 when a gallon hit $4-16 on average. Ben Brockwell, the director of data, pricing and information services at the Oil Price Information Service, said… “The fact of the matter is Obama is no more to blame than Bush was in ’08 when (oil) prices went to $150 a barrel.””

    The answers aren’t easy but it doesn’t help when people dream stuff up and blatantly inject vitriol into the discussion because it’s what they WANT to be true even though it isn’t even close (and BOTH sides are horribly to blame for this…and the reason why the approval rating is like 12% in congress).

    By the way, in full disclosure, I am retired Army and a long time Republican…but when it became the Repuglican party and the best they could offer as leaders were GW, Cheney, Palin, West, Tea Party, Bachmann, McConnell, etc I had no choice but to become independent. I have a brain and I choose to use it. I also have a vote…and Romney will never get it. And the jury is still out on whether I’ll give it to Obama but it’s looking like yes more and more every day.

    Good luck to us all…we’ll need it!

  81. Michael Eden Says:

    BJH,

    I have no idea what your political affiliations are. You say you are a “Republican,” but I have CAUGHT liberals telling me they are moderates or conservatives or Republicans on this blog. I have DOCUMENTED that they in fact were lying and even had a few ACKNOWLEDGE that they had in fact lied. So your assertion means absolutely NOTHING to me.

    I’ve had a few liberals assure me they were millionaire businessmen and so I should bow down to their superior knowledge that liberalism is what every successful business needs.

    I could tell you that I am the god Apollo blogging to you mere mortals from Mount Olympus. Hope you believe me because would Apollo lie to you?

    As a bottom line, when you say, “You can’t blame Obama” there is no question that you are IN FACT defending Obama. And if you WERE a Republican I frankly cannot understand why you would be looking for debates to get into to help Obama and thus hurt Republicans.

    I just got through posting (again) the sheer hypocrisy of Obama who demonized Bush for gas prices. By analogy, what you are doing “as a Republican” is going to court and testifying on behalf of your wife’s rapist to help him get off and saying you’re only doing it “just to be fair.” And I say bullcrap.

    Obama needs to twist in the wind according to the same standards he made Bush twist in the wind. As I just got through documenting. You can twist it any way you want: but gas prices are well over DOUBLE what Bush handed Obama ($1.85 a gallon for regular unleaded, for the record). Versus today when it is $3.76 and heading UP.

    I am amazed at all the liberals who are crawling out from under their rocks now and being magnanimous to George Bush about his oil and gas prices – four years and four years PLUS after it is too late because they already destroyed him. These people are true, abject hypocrites. And I don’t have a lot of respect for you when you join them. ESPECIALLY if you are a “Republican.”

    The fact of the matter is that it would be VERY easy to strike a “grand bargain” with the oil companies that would result in oil drilled in America staying in America. It would be very easy to forge an agreement that the oil companies would use their increase in supply and the increased stability that derives from a stable domestic energy source (versus playing “You bet your life” in the Middle East) to reduce domestic oil prices for the American people. So I simply fundamentally disagree with you about your assertion that increasing domestic drilling would have no impact on the price of gas in America.

    As one example of how wrong you are, GO TO THE MIDDLE EAST. DO YOU KNOW WHAT PEOPLE IN SAUDI ARABIA PAY FOR A GALLON OF GASOLINE???? It’s well under a dollar. Oh, and in oil-rich Venezuala its less than twenty cents. So you are just wrong to say that domestic oil production can’t have any impact on domestic oil prices.

  82. Chris Says:

    I hate to rain on your parade but gas was $4.21 during Bush’s administration. It’s interesting you chose not to show that period in your “simple” picture.

  83. Michael Eden Says:

    Chris,

    I hate to point out that you are an abject dumbass, but the article in question made a very apples-to-apples comparison between the first 26 months of Bush’s presidency and the first 26 months of Obama’s presidency. If you had about 50,000 times more IQ points than you’ve got, you would notice that this article I cite was written well over a year ago when “first 26 months” was ALL THEY HAD OF OBAMA’S PRESIDENCY TO COMPARE.

    I also have to point out to intellectually impaired idiots like you that IT ISN’T MY PICTURE. The chart is from a March 2011 article, dumbass.

    Thank you for pointing out that liberals are unthinking stupid idiots who wait for talking points so they can know what they are supposed to think.

    I have documented on this article before that when Bush took office, gasoline cost $1.40 a gallon. When Bush left office eight years later gasoline was $1.84 a gallon. And I have documented that Obama took that $1.84 a gallon that Bush handed him and took it to what is now $3.82 today. Which is to say that gasoline prices have not merely doubled under Obama’s watch, they have increased by 108 percent

    THAT is as apples to apples as we can get – from the start to the end. And today is the only end point we’ve got as of today, isn’t it?

    If you want TRUE fair comparison, you would look at the end of Obama’s term versus the end of Bush’s first term. Gasoline was $1.89 a gallon at this point in September of 2004 under Bush. Which is why it is obvious why you DON’T want a fair comparison, isn’t it? No, what you want to do is cherry pick your data in a flagrently biased way.

    I have also documented on this article that gas prices went down, down, DOWN from the day that Bush issued his executive order ending the federal moratorium on offshore drilling. Which is to say that Bush brought down the high gas prices by finally applying a conservative principle.

    Where has Obama brought down the price of gas? It has gone up, up and more up since he took office.

    You better pray that Israel doesn’t attack Iran because they know Obama won’t. Because Obama will go out have quintupled the price of gasoline when the American people drive his ass out of office.

    Now get lost. I don’t waste my time with idiots.

  84. Mikey Says:

    How disingenuous to post just the first few months. How about peak prices during entire Presidency? Gas prices were higher under Bush than Obama so far:

    “The cost of gas in June of 2008, the early stages of the heavy summer driving season and during the presidential campaign, was $4.10 per gallon. The 2008 gas crisis hit its peak one month later with prices averaging $4.11 per gallon.”

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162-57401650/face-the-facts-a-fact-check-on-gas-prices/

    I understand you have a point to make and to make it you require cherry picking data- but come on- that’s pretty desperate. Your chart does prove one thing however- the price of gas when Bush began and the price of gas when Bush left- just keep in mind the price of gas per gallon tripled under Bush’s watch.

  85. Michael Eden Says:

    just keep in mind the price of gas per gallon tripled under Bush’s watch

    Mikey,

    You are a documented liar. When Bush took office gas prices were $1.40 a gallon. When he left office gas prices on January 20, 2009 were $1.84 a gallon. You liar.

    What I said to your dumbass friend Chris applies equally to you.

    It takes a liberal to say that “First 26 monts compared to first 26 months” in an article that was written after Obama’s first 26 months is somehow unfair. That source DIDN’T cherry pick data; they did the exact opposite and provided the most apples-to-apples comparison they possibly could given that Obama had only been in office for 26 months.

    On ANY legitimate comparison on gas prices, Bush kicks Obama’s ass up one side and down the other: Average monthly gas prices throughout a president’s term in office, Bush kicks Obama’s ass. Gas prices as they were compared to the beginning and the end of each presidency, Bush kicks Obama’s ass. Average monthly gas prices through each president’s first 42 months in office, Bush kicks Obama’s ass as bad as he kicked Obama’s ass during the first 26 months of each presidency.

    You are cherry picking one damn day at the highest point that occurred during Bush’s second term even as you hypocritically accuse me of cherry picking. If Obama gets reelected and America is cursed with a second Obama term, I guarantee you that we will be seeing gas prices over $8 a gallon by the time Obama leaves office. But we don’t have a crystal ball to know what gas prices would do in a second Obama term, do we?

    Read what I wrote to Chris, understand that YOU are the one trying to cherry pick data. And then get lost, because again, I hate wasting time on idiots.

    I block liars like you who cite false facts. So begone.

  86. Anonymous Says:

    What about Bush’s second term. More than a dollar rise in price. More than in all of the previous years put together. Your so bias, It’s scarey. Oh, by the way, in which term did Bin Laden and Gaddafi go down? HUM! Your an idiot!

  87. Michael Eden Says:

    Anonymous,

    I’m an idiot. You’re not even smart enough to remember your own damn NAME, “Anonymous.”

    Three things: one, what the hell does bin Laden have to do with freaking gas prices? You have to have poop for brains to link the two togeher, poop for brains. And if you want to know who actually GOT bin Laden, it was the guy who approved of the waterboarding of the terrorists who told us that bin Laden was living in Abbottabad and that we could track him down by finding the courier who was keeping him in touch with al Qaeda.

    It’s kind of funny that getting Saddam Hussein didn’t mean a hill of beans to you doctrinaire dumbasses, isn’t it???

    Two, why are YOU not an idiot for comparing Bush’s second term to Obama’s second term WHEN OBAMA HASN’T HAD A SECOND DAMN TERM??? What will gas prices be in Obama’s second term to compare them to Bush’s gas prices, dumbass? Give me a number. It doesn’t damn exist, you stupid idiotic moron.

    Three, if you had so much as a brain in your head, you would realize that Obama during his FIRST Term has gas prices nearly as high as Bush EVER did in his second. Gas prices where I live in California are an average of $4.15 a gallon right now today, you fool. So if you’re trying to claim that gas is cheaper under Obama than under Bush, you truly are one idiot little roach.

    I found charts giving us gas price information for the state of New York going back to January 2002 - not long into Bush’s presidency. Now YOU’RE not smart enough to compare, you dumbass, but I’ll ask people with brains to take a look at what prices averaged over eight years of Bush and compare that number to what prices have averaged under Obama. Obama has been so much worse for gas prices it’s not even FUNNY.

    Now get lost.

  88. Micheal Edan older brother Says:

    This guy is a moron. Why do you people argue with him. Someone needs to take him out to the barn and cap his ass. We don’t need nuts like this in the world. My god, i am scared for our children.

  89. Michael Eden Says:

    Micheal Edan older brother,

    I’m not sure who you’re calling a moron or who people shouldn’t be arguing with. But I’m kind of figuring by the fact that my turd-dar is going off that you’re a liberal and you’re talking about me.

    A more obvious fact is that you said “this guy is a moron” while misspelling the uncomplicated, four letter name of the guy you’re trying to insult. That kind of blatant idiot hypocrisy only comes from liberals, who have sphincters where their brains ought to be located and which is why they crap out whatever disgusting material enters their heads.

    Go find a barn and cap your own ass. And get lost. If you’re smart enough to actually make a point or an argument, then you would have made it. The fact that you don’t have a single intelligent thing to say is all I need to know about you.

    I want people to notice something about liberals and conservatives. I present a case documented and supported by facts. Liberals have no facts and frankly couldn’t care less about facts and just rely on name-calling.

  90. Lisa Helka Says:

    Well Mr. Bush made “DEALS” with Kuwait to fatten his wallet, its easier to look like the good guy when you have powerful allies in your pockets, yes the #s speak for themselves but i have yet to see the “peacekeeping trips to Kuwait “from Obama that bush so frequently took, If you are so naive to belive Bush was a good president you are at the least.. dillusional. Clinton took office, economy,gas prices ,jobs etc. Were in a good place, The last 2 presidents are disappointments, but if Romney can get on national tv and say ” he will not raise taxes for the wealthy, to better our deficit,but failed to say how he would “better our economy” That says to me……Once again we will be stuck with the bill!! I WISH JESUS COULD RUN FOR PRESIDENT!! :)))) Thats the only person I will vote for as there are no worthy leaders or potential leaders that give us ANY hope!!!

  91. BJH Says:

    Well, I wouldn’t vote for Jesus…after a short time, fish, bread, and wine would get old.

    On the other hand, if he would create an animal that ate Repuglicans and pissed gasoline, I’d buy that for a dollar.

  92. Michael Eden Says:

    Lisa Helka,

    You’re just wrong on so many levels.

    You’re either talking about George H.W. Bush (in which case you’ve got the wrong Bush and NO HE DIDN’T “fatten his wallet”) or you’re talking about George W. Bush AFTER he got out of office as a private citizen.

    If the former, you are a liar. If the latter, what an amazing hypocrite you are!!! Because Bill Clinton whom you lavish so much praise on had amassed $65 million in speaking fees FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD as early as June of 2010.

    Oh, wait. Here’s one from the next year of 2011. I’m sorry, did I say $65 million? That’s so yesterday!!! Bill Clinton made $89 million doing what you just demonized Bush for doing. Now that Bill Clinton, there’s a man who knows how to fatten his wallet.

    It’s only a sin when Bush does it. When Clinton does FAR MORE than Bush ever did it’s fine. That attitude DEFINES you people.

    You people are so loathsome it is positively unreal. I don’t know how you can stand to look at yourselves.

    I’ve written about Bill Clinton before. I’ve written about how Bill Clinton gutted the military budget and gutted the intelligence budget – leaving America both weak and blind while he exploited a pseudo-”peace dividend” that history now proves NEVER EXISTED – and how Bill Clinton radically changed the Somalia humanitarian operation into a military mission without giving our soldiers any heavy armor that they needed. And I wrote about how Clinton then cut and ran like a coward out of Somalia after the Blackhawk Down fiasco and how a man named Osama bin Laden concluded (rightly) that America was a paper tiger and ripe for attack and that we would retreat if Muslim terrorists gave us some dead American bodies. 9/11 was 100 percent Bill Clinton’s fault. Period.

    I’ve also documented that Bill Clinton left Bush with a terrible recession that he just walked away whistling from because dishonet people like YOU were running the media. As a result of the DotCom Bubble that happened under Clinton’s watch, George Bush inherited an economy that would see $7.1 TRILLION in American wealth vaporized. Did you know that, Lisa??? As a result of the DotCom bubble that Clinton created and just walked away from, George Bush watched 78% of the Nasdaq Index vanish before his eyes. Did you know that Bill Clinton did all that???

    The 2008 implosion likewise had “Democrat” written all over it as I document over and over again:

    If anyone would like to understand what happened in 2008 when the economy crashed and which party is to mostly blame for that collapse, read this. And read these:

    More Proof Democrats Destroyed The Economy In 2008: The Ongoing Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac Disaster

    Why Did Our Economy Melt Down In 2008? (Email This To Your Friends)

    US Is in Even Worse Shape Financially Than Greece. And Why Is That In The Age Of Obama???

    How Should Democrats Eat The Half-Trillion $ Monsters Fannie And Freddie? One Bite At A Time

    It Was DEMOCRATS Who Blew Up Our Economy In 2008

    Basically, when you learn the FACTS, you will find out that it was primarily Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac – which controlled over HALF of the mortgages in America – that created the housing bubble which collapsed. You will find that Democrats protected the GSEs – which were stuffed with Democrats – and marched in lock step to prevent Republicans from being able to regulate them in any way, shape or form. You will find that George Bush tried SEVENTEEN TIMES to reform and regulate Fannie and Freddie. You will find that John McCain wrote a letter predicting the collapse and urging Congress to take action (which Democrats of course blocked). You will find that shortly before leaving office Bill Clinton massively expanded the program of using Fannie and Freddie to provide loans to minorities and poor who could not possibly pay them back. You will find that Fannie and Freddie were the ONLY entities who were allowed to bundle thousands of these mortgages into mortgage backed securities and then sell them to private entities such as Lehman Brothers under the myth that the GSEs were backed by the government. You will find that the 2008 collapse occurred because these Fannie and Freddie-bundled mortgage backed securities were filled with toxic loans and that because there was no possible way for anyone to separate the good mortgages from the bad the whole securities were in doubt. You find that Barack Obama not only took more campaign donations from Fannie and Freddie in a shorter time than any politician in American history, but he also took more campaign donations from Lehman Bros. in a shorter period of time than any politician in history. And you will find Democrats being wildly wrong in their predictions about Fannie and Freddie’s health right before their demise and collapse which TRIGGERED the private sector’s collapse.

    You will find Democrats and Democrat policies pretty much behind everything leading up to the 2008 collapse if you just bothered to learn the basic facts.

    I’ve documented that the day George Bush handed the presidency over to Obama, gas prices were $1.84 a gallon. You get that, Lisa? On January 20, 2009, the day Obama took office, gas prices were $1.84 a gallon.

    At this article I document factually that Bush’s average gas prices over eight years was a very respectable $2.14 a gallon. And if you just consider Bush’s first four years (the way we can only consider Obama’s first four years) gasoline was only $1.68 a gallon on Bush’s watch.

    But people like you lie about Bush and lie about his record and you are just flat-out dishonest.

    You say, “I WISH JESUS COULD RUN FOR PRESIDENT.” And that sounds really good. One day Jesus will be KING and I yearn for that day.

    But Jesus came riding into Jerusalem on a donkey (btw, a symbold of kingship in Israel) and the people crucified Him and when they “crowned” Him it was with a crown of thorns that they jammed onto His head.

    The leaders of Israel of the day framed Jesus with demonic lies and murdered Him – just like the lies you believed about Bush.

    You love Clinton? You love his embrace of the radical homosexual agenda that he’s taken since Obama rammed homosexual marriage and an openly homosexual military down our throat? You think Jesus would love that? Do you think Jesus would celebrate with you the 55 MILLION innocent babies that Democrats have murdered in their abortion mills, do you???

    You need to wake up, Lisa. You PERSONALLY are responsible for the mass murder of 55 million innocent human beings. You want Clinton and Clinton wants abortion and ergo sum YOU WANT ABORTION AND GOD WILL HOLD YOU TO ACCOUNT FOR THE MURDER OF EVERY SINGLE ONE OF HIS CHILDREN.

    No, Lisa. I’m not going to wear your label of “dillusional” [sic]. I’m going to give that right back to you and let you wear it.

  93. Michael Eden Says:

    BJH at ALLRepuglicansMUSTdie.com.

    Hey, thanks for helping to document what vile hellbound turds you Democrats truly are.

    You can get lost now.

  94. BJH Says:

    I really do hope that when you die, you donate your brain to science so they can find out just how so much shit can fit in something the size of a walnut. I’d buy that report for a dollar.

  95. Michael Eden Says:

    BJH,

    Two things before I block you:

    1) I notice that you do not and cannot have anything to say about the actual subject matter of the article you are commenting upon. Neither being intelligent enough or moral enough to actually have any worthwhile argument, you stoop to petty bigoted personal attacks right from the getgo. You are a true creep. And again, thank you for illustrating the essence of liberalism: a belief-system held by truly vile people.

    2) You have now in two comments used a rather stupid line from a rather forgettable movie (RoboCop with the mindless TV celebrity whose thematic purpose was to illustrate the mindlessness of a society as everything – law and order prominately included – breaks down saying “I’d buy that for a dollar”). Which is to say you are not only a dumbass, but you are a dumbass who can’t even create your own stupid dumbass lines.

    Now get lost, troll.

  96. Anonymous Says:

    you can go F yourself

  97. Michael Eden Says:

    you can go F yourself

    Anonymous,

    What makes your “comment” particularly funny is that THIS is what I had just got through saying:

    I want people to notice something about liberals and conservatives. I present a case documented and supported by facts. Liberals have no facts and frankly couldn’t care less about facts and just rely on name-calling.

    Thank you for documenting that what I say about liberals is simply completely true. You are bad people who have no arguments and no facts because you hate the truth. And all you are left with is pathetic outbursts.

    Now get lost.

  98. Dave Says:

    Michael,

    Good job on your blog. The sad thing is, you can’t fix stupid. But, keep trying. Remember part of being a liberal is standing on your head and telling the world they’re upside down. I mean we’re talking about people that are all for killing innocent babies, but don’t want terrorist tortured. Really??? Keep up the good fight and God bless!!!

  99. Michael Eden Says:

    Dave,

    Thanks a lot for the encouragement. And for the “part of being a liberal is standing on your head and telling the world they’re upside down” line. I’d never heard that one!

    I’m really not out to “fix stupid.” I got into blogging with 3 aims in mind: 1) to preserve a record of just how terrible Obama has been for this country and for its economy; 2) to do what I could to provide conservatives with facts and arguments for their discussions with liberals; and 3) to try to pursuade independents and Democrats that have stopped drinking Kool-Aid and are at least ready to hear a case for conservative solutions.

    I really never intended to try to reach out to or persuade liberals. Even Jesus couldn’t persuade the vile people of His day, and He was far better at arguing and persuading than I am.

    I’ll defend my articles, of course. But most of the time I just get either hate or stupid or both hate and stupid from the left.

    God bless you as well.

  100. Anonymous Says:

    Lol @ calling Liberals idiots in a huge diatribe comparing gas prices between Presidents, something the President has no control over. Pot, meet Kettle.

  101. Joe Says:

    Jesus was the greatest liberal of his day. Jesus was not constantly crying about needing tax breaks to preserve his millions of shekels. Jesus did not complain about how many poor there was, and about how providing to the poor was taking away their entrepreneurial spirit and damning them to a life of ignorance and poverty. Jesus railed against those who would not visit people in prison. He asked his followers to sell their possessions and give all their worldly wealth to the poor. The last thing Jesus wants from you is to be referenced in you hateful blogging. So please, admit your worship not of Jesus, but of money.

  102. Michael Eden Says:

    Joe,

    Boy are you liberals morally stupid people.

    You literally ban God from your platform and then illegitimately put God back IN to your platform over boos at your convention while imposing the homosexuality that God declares to be an ABOMINATION and then you say, “But we’re so much better Christians than you Republicans are” like the complete abject hypocrites that you are.

    I’ve written a couple of articles that utterly refute your vile crap about “Jesus being a liberal” in both detail and depth:

    https://startthinkingright.wordpress.com/2012/08/29/why-do-depraved-democrats-deceitfully-distort-jesus-to-demagogue-republicans/

    https://startthinkingright.wordpress.com/2012/08/27/where-economic-marxism-and-liberalism-truly-comes-from-hostility-toward-god-and-religion/

    Your god is GOVERNMENT, and it is the ONLY god with whom you have to do. But Jesus was not a socialist. Jesus did not EVER at ANY time tell His followers to create a giant socialist secular state that would forcibly redistribute wealth while warring on religion as you have done. And the last thing Jesus wants from YOU is to be subsumed in your atheist-to-the-core MARXISM.

    So please admit your worship most definitely NOT of Jesus, but of government socialism and of the abandonment of all personal responsibility whatsoever. And then please get lost.

  103. Michael Eden Says:

    Anonymous,

    Yeah, that’s right, you hypocrite turd.

    People like YOU were FINE demonizing presidents for gas prices when the president was named Bush and the man doing it was named Barack Obama.

    As I stated in an article title and then documented in that article, “Democrats Are Hypocrite Demagogue Fools When It Comes To Gas Prices.”

    Now all of a sudden it’s Obama in office and you lying little hypocrite turds can’t handle the taste of your own tactics.

    Obama is ONE THE RECORD saying that under his administration, energy prices would necessarily skyrocket. Obama is ON THE RECORD saying he wanted gas prices to increase as long as the increase was gradual. Obama is ON THE RECORD appointing an energy secretary who wanted gas prices to be the same as Europe (read $9-10 a gallon) to force Americans to stop using it. And Obama is ON THE RECORD killing America’s ability to build pipelines and drill for domestic oil.

    Democrats spent DECADES obstructing America’s ability to use their own oil.

    Harry Reid, the Democrat leader of the Democrat-controlled Senate, said:

    “The one thing we fail to talk about is those costs that you don’t see on the bottom line. That is coal makes us sick, oil makes us sick; it’s global warming. It’s ruining our country, it’s ruining our world. We’ve got to stop using fossil fuel.”

    While Nancy Pelosi said (while shutting down American oil):

    “I’m trying to save the planet; I’m trying to save the planet,” she says impatiently when questioned. “I will not have this debate trivialized by their excuse for their failed policy.”

    And now you refuse to have any discussion about YOUR failed policy.

    Get lost. Go climb in your pot and turn the heat on.

    Idiots.

  104. Anonymous Says:

    This was just ridiculous. Distorted thought process

  105. Michael Eden Says:

    This was just ridiculous. Distorted thought process

    Anonymous,

    Spoken just like a true lying slime.

    If there was a “distorted thought process,” it was only in allowing you to post your stupid comment.

    Because other than your slanderous assertion, you failed to produce so much as A SINGLE EVIDENCE to back up your liberal bullcrap.

    Now get lost. I block liars who make bogus accusations without thinking they have any responsibility to even cite what they hell they think they’re talking about.

    Some people are such an inherent waste of time it’s unreal.

  106. Terry Says:

    Republicans love to talk about the 1.18 price of gas when Bush left office, but they never mention the over 4.00 dollar a gallon price six months before that. By the way, if Obama was to manipulate gas prices, you guys would call him what?

  107. Michael Eden Says:

    Terry,

    You would be utterly ashamed of yourself if you had the half a brain you needed to understand how wrong you are.

    First, if you’re going to talk about numbers, could you please at least get the basic numbers straight???

    Where does ANYBODY who ISN’T a moron say that the price of gas was “$1.18″ when Bush left office? Could you show me where a non-dumbass confirms your “Republicans love to talk about the 1.18 price of gas when Bush left office”??? Because I’d like to see it.

    Dumbass.

    Second, yes, gas prices briefly went up to over $4 a gallon while Bush was president. But as I document in this article, the price of oil and gas PLUMMETED IMMEDIATELY WHEN BUSH FINALLY GOT SUFFICIENTLY PISSED OFF BY DEMOCRAT OBSTRUCTIONISM TO BY EXECUTIVE ORDER END THE FEDERAL OFFSHORE DRILLING BAN. Why? Because conservative solutions work and liberal solutions fail to do anything but hurt people.

    Third, also at the very top of this article, I supply a link to the price of gas DURING EACH PRESIDENT’S ENTIRE PRESIDENCY. That article conclusively proves that Bush was FAR better at gas prices than Obama has been. And if Obama is reelected you will see gas prices DOUBLE what they are now by the end of that failed presidency, mark my words. But you don’t want to talk about that because at your core you are a rabid dishonest partisan liar who wants to demonize a single snapshot of the worst Bush moment rather than examine the entire four years of failure of your messiah.

  108. Adam MacFarlane Says:

    I don’t know if FOX News or any other stations have offered you a show… but I would certainly tune in to watch you take calls or emails from liberals. There is really nothing more entertaining that two delusional people going at it on live television!

  109. Michael Eden Says:

    Adam MacFarlane,

    I’d ask you to fill in for me. If you’re delusional enough to enjoy watching delusional people, then I’m sure you’d do a much better job at being delusional.

    As for me, I just want to hear the truth while you clearly prefer to be entertained by delusion.

    Oh, here, look, I found the life verse that best describes people like you:

    “For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie” — 2 Thess 2:11

    Keep enjoying your delusion! Happy smile faces in magic bubble land!

    Now, given the fact that you’ve got absolutely nothing to offer but snide personal attack, I’ll be blocking you now so I’ll never have to waste time on your idiotic little substitute for reality ever again.

  110. T. Says:

    “If you’re young and not a liberal, you have no heart. If you’re old and not a conservative, you have no brain.”

  111. Michael Eden Says:

    T.,

    I suppose the first part is often true. I was serving in the infantry as a young man, and I guess between the fact that I was a young man who actually had a JOB and the fact that I was serving with NCOs who had personally suffered due to liberals’ massively failed policies and interacted with the young men under their influence, I became a conservative early on.

    The latter part is of course ALWAYS true. Liberalism amounts to wishing the world were a certain way and then ignoring reality to make-believe you can make it that way. Liberalism is saying you want to help black people and Hispanic people and young people and college graduates and women and then hurting them with your stupid and immoral policies. Liberalism is massively failing because your policies have absolutely nothing to do with the real world and then blaming your opponent for your failure.

    Liberals are intellectually stupid because they are morally stupid and moral idiocy always becomes intellectual stupidity because bad people always believe lies and hate the truth.

  112. Unreal Says:

    Are you that ignorant to think that an American president can have so much influence on such a huge globally necessary commodity? And our massive reliance on it? Nice front for your conservative agenda. Read a bit more into economist theories and educate yourself instead of brainwashing the real “idiots” of America who rely on your skewed facts to dictate their own political agenda. And your credibility? Goes right out the door with your heading of a Bible verse. Religion always has been a front for power and money and the reasons for more wars in this world than anything else? Would Jeaus really have supported that?

    Good luck continuing to contribute to the downfalls of this country – ignorance.

    And for the record I share not my name nor email to avoid any empty propaganda on your part. Go educate yourself for you and stop trying to influence the masses so you feel in better company.

  113. Michael Eden Says:

    Are you that ignorant to think that an American president can have so much influence on such a huge globally necessary commodity?

    Unreal,

    Let me put it this way: I can know that I am talking to one ignorant DUMBASS because YOU ARE SO DAMNED IGNORANT YOU VOTED FOR THE MAN WHO BY YOUR OWN MEASURE IS IDIOT:

    When George Bush was president, you and your cockroach liberal liars didn’t think it was “ignorant” at ALL “to think that an American president can have so much influence on such a huge globally necessary commodity.” What lying, dishonest hypocrite frauds you people are.

    Given the fact that the man and in fact the political party that you voted for and continue to support is pathologically ignorant by your very standard that you just hypocritically tried to attack me for, I think I won’t be lectured to by you.

    You would be completely ashamed of yourself if you had any virtue whatsoever. Or maybe at some level you ARE ashamed which is why you refuse to let people know who the ignorant dumbass that just posted this ignorant dumbass comment is.

  114. Rodger Says:

    Please check the eia.gov or even gasbuddy.com. The prices you listed don’t match the government website, eia. But if you really want to compare, notice the price dropping every election year, right in NOV. 2004 and 2008. Why is that? This is republican and democratic parties. It has nothing to do with the president, but actually the government as a whole.

  115. Michael Eden Says:

    Rodger,

    Bullcrap. I DO use the official figures from the Energy Information Administration, and your attempts to smear my article by waving your hand at a non-existent problem doesn’t make the facts that you don’t like because they make your messiah look bad go away.

    My other article that I refer to in the very first link GOES TO TOWN using EIA.gov figures to PROVE that Obama has been far worse on gas prices than Bush. And in fact in particular that article also covers THE ENTIRE EIGHT YEARS OF BUSH’S PRESIDENCY AND THE ENTIRE FOUR YEARS OF OBAMA’S.

    That article in particular proves that every single thing you said in your comment is in fact a LIE.

    I block liars when I catch them in lies, so you can get lost.

  116. Sharksbreath Says:

    The price of oil per barrel since 2000.

    When bush came into office a barrel of oil was $20. In 2006 at the worst point of The Iraq war it was 147 dollars a barrel.

    So yes polices can have effect on oil prices. Any of you republicans see the check from the Iraqi oil that was supposed to pay for the Iraq war. Anyone.

    I know Mitt got his slice since he invested in a company in China that got the deal with Iraq. Any of you get a piece of the action.

    Anyway.

    When Obama came into office a barrel of oil was 116 dollars. It is now 90.

    http://hawaii.gov/dbedt/info/visitor-stats/tourismforecast/Oilprice_1Q2011.pdf

    How does it feel to deny math and facts and live your life based on the silly opinions you pull from where the sun doesn’t shine. That are 99% of the time wrong. Even a dead clock is right twice a day.

    I wonder how you people make it across the street everyday.

  117. Michael Eden Says:

    How does it feel to deny math and facts and live your life based on the silly opinions you pull from where the sun doesn’t shine

    Sharksbreath,

    I don’t know, you stupid dumbass. You tell me.

    I just looked at your own damn chart. In December 2008, it very clearly says that oil was selling at $41.53 a barrel. That point is very specifically labeled. And the graph very clearly shows that the price for oil was virtually identical to that $41.53 a barrel in January when Obama took office one month later. So you “deny the math and facts and live your life based on the silly opinions you pull out of your ass” and ignore your OWN DAMN CHART.

    For the record, when I clicked on that chart, I began to have an Internet Explorer issue, so look at it at your own peril.

    YOU say that when Obama took office oil was $116 a barrel. BUT YOUR CHART SAYS IT WAS ABOUT $41.53 – WHICH IS NEARLY THREE TIMES LESS AND BLOWS YOUR ENTIRE ARGUMENT TO HELL WHERE IT BELONGS.

    That and the fact that ORDINARY PEOPLE only care about the PRICE PER GALLON. Which has skyrocketed under Obama AS I DOCUMENT, and as you ignore.

    Geez you liberals are stupid, arrogant people.

    Now get lost. I have no intention of helping you tie your shoes again.

  118. Marc Lefebvre (@lefebmr) Says:

    Michael Eden, you’re hilarious, in a kind of sad way.
    Why would any sane person even think of arguing with you?
    You’re the smartest man in the world! Truly a man such as yourself, that knows everything about anything would be a shoo-in for the presidency. You should consider a run to the top Mr. Eden.
    I have truly enjoyed the meaningless banter of this blog. I can see you red faced, sweating, typing feverishly on the keys. Do you really think you’re going to change someones mind that doesn’t agree with you?
    Your name calling and the petty way you attempt to degrade anyone that doesn’t drink the same Kool-aid as you are classic. All the time and energy you have wasted spewing your demented dribble. Let me guess…I’m a turd. No, wait a minute…I’m a DUMBASS. Come on Mikey, come up with a new one for me. I can take it!

  119. Michael Eden Says:

    Marc Lefebvre,

    Let me go ahead and do a little name-calling, then, you dumbassed turd.

    I wrote an article that presents FACTS to support a consistent argument. And just what do dumbassed turds do? They do what you do. Dumbassed turds hate facts and can’t even begin to argue with somebody who has facts, so instead of trying to argue facts dumbassed turds do ANYTHING but deal with facts and present meaningful arguments.

    So you wrote four paragraphs that never ONCE mentioned so much as a SINGLE relevant thing to the issue that the article was all about. You are a nothing but a complete waste of time.

    And people wonder why I get annoyed whenever the next loser comes along to bother me…

    Now get lost. Having seen that you are incapable of doing anything beyond your brainless demagoguing, I think I can live the rest of my life without wasting another second on you.

  120. Anonymous Says:

    It’s interesting that you compare the beginning rather than the most recent gas prices. You must be afraid to admit that the beginning had to be inherited from the previous president. Also the highest peak price of gas was in Bush’s presidency.

  121. Michael Eden Says:

    What a dishonest liar you are, Anonymous.

    The fact of the matter is that any way you slice it, Obama has been absolutely catastrophic to gas prices.

    Because of snide dishonest liars exactly like YOU, I added a substantial update to this piece which appears right at the very beginning. You just can’t miss it. AND IN THAT UPDATE RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING I DO THE VERY THING YOU FALSELY AND DISHONESTLY CLAIM I DON’T DO.

    I provide the entire record of Bush’s entire eight years of gas prices versus Obama’s four years of gas prices. The whole kitten kaboodle. You dishonest liar. I factually document that over “the entirety of Bush’s presidency, gasoline went from $1.40 a gallon to $1.85 a gallon.” And I factually document that over the course of his entire presidency, Obama has DOUBLED gas prices. That is simply a fact.

    I block dishonest people like you, Anonymous, for a very simple reason. There is no point having a debate with a liar who slanders what you are saying with lies and replacing facts with lies. There is just no point bothering to argue with the kind of fool that you clearly are. So get lost, you slandering liar.

  122. Anonymous Says:

    You’re a fucking retard

  123. Michael Eden Says:

    Anonymous,

    Whereas you aren’t nearly intelligent enough to even qualify for that intellelectual status.

    You aren’t smart enough to provide any facts or arguments for your own position on gas prices.

    In fact, you lack even the basic intelligence to be able to state what you don’t like about my article.

    And of course, you are so pathetically stupid that you believe that personally attacking me somehow makes up for the fact that you don’t even have a damn point and you wouldn’t be capable of defending your damn point if you did have one.

    So I might be a “retard” for having a position and citing the facts and putting together the argument to defend my position, but you’ve never been SMART enough to be a “retard” and you probably never will be.

  124. CaptainNoLies Says:

    I want to discuss another Bush-Obama comparison:

    Bush’s last 12 months in office: Loss of -4,462,000 jobs
    Obama’s last 12 months in office: Gain of +1,949,000 jobs

    Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics
    http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net_1mth

    Based on this data, would you agree that Bush was terrible on jobs and that Obama is doing much better?

  125. Michael Eden Says:

    CaptainNoLies,

    Based on this data, I would conclude that you salad picked your data.

    In what way does Bush’s eighth year in office correspond to Obama’s fourth year in office? You know, given that stubborn fact that Bush ALSO just happened to have a fourth year in office which you ignored.

    Why not compare the last 12 months of Bush’s FIRST term in terms of jobs created, which would at least have the fact that it would be an apples to apples comparison. Either that, or get into your time machine and show me what kind of job creation record Obama will have in the year 2016.

  126. Michael Eden Says:

    CaptainNoTruth,

    Oh, I see now. I just clicked on your link and checked your data.

    It’s not that you’re stupid and can’t understand an apples-to-apples comparison; it’s just that you’re simply personally dishonest. Because that apples-to-apples comparison of the last year of Bush’s first term versus the last year of Obama’s first term has Bush creating more jobs than Obama. And apples-to-apples doesn’t work out for you very well – so you decided to cheat and redefine the rules like your ilk always does.

    Several years Bush created well over 2 million jobs – which your guy couldn’t do even in his very best year which you cherry picked. And for the record, yes, one of those years was 2004 which was Bush’s final year of his first four years and which corresponds to the year you are choosing for Obama.

    Given the fact that Obama is about to start the first year of his 2nd term taking America off the fiscal cliff, I wouldn’t talk smack about “eighth year in office” if I were you.

    Based on this data, would you agree that Obama is terrible on jobs and that Bush did much better?

  127. Anonymous Says:

    your a moron and ignorant MR. EDEN!

  128. Michael Eden Says:

    Anonymous,

    One who is clearly so non-moronic and educated as yourself ought to know that you incorrectly used the pronoun for the possessive case when you should have used “you are” or the contraction “you’re” to describe someone’s state of being.

    Given that you also demonstrated that you are incapable of offering any kind of argument for your view beside the most petty of name calling, I shall simply point out that you just documented not one but TWO acts displaying a moronic and ignorant human being.

  129. Anonymous Says:

    you’re a fucking dumb ass, just like the debt is obama’s fault? if your girlfriend gives you herpes, you can’t blame it on the next girl now can you? you fucking fag mother fucker

  130. Michael Eden Says:

    Anonymous,

    I’m not bothering to reply to you, as you are clearly not worth trying to have any sort of intelligent conversation with.

    I apologize to my readers for this roach’s language. All I can say is what more can you expect from a roach?

    I am blocking this turd, of course. I merely allow this to document the sort of unhinged hate and stupidity I get every single day from the left.

  131. Brad Herrick Says:

    Michael,

    Although I rarely agree with anything you post, there was no cause for the comments by “Anonymous.” Anonymous posts of that nature are cowardly and your response was fitting. Yes, I’m left of center, but I prefer fact filled discussions and expressions of opinion of all types compared to useless comments by cowardly posters. There is something to be said for an open-mind and spirited debate…it’s how how our country was founded and makes for better informed decisions by everyone.

    Regards,
    Brad

  132. Michael Eden Says:

    Brad Herrick,

    Thank you. I take that in the spirit that you intended.

    We don’t have to agree on everything. But if we at least can’t agree that “facts” as true statements and “arguments” as logically persuasive presentations of those true statements don’t matter, then we are no different than the beasts and we might as well just get to business and just start fighting each other like beasts.

    In John 18:37, Jesus said that He was born and came into the world to testify to the TRUTH. If somebody – ANYBODY from ANY political ideology or worldview – responds to someone’s arguments with drive-by name-calling, that person is simply so full of darkness that they are beyond reason and beyond reach.

    As a liberal, Brad, you would be stunned and saddened to learn just how often I get posts from liberals like “Anonymous.”

    It is good to know that there are at least a few principled “left of center” folk such as yourself out there who are willing to focus enough on “truth” that you are able to put partisanship aside for the sake of that truth. It speaks very well of you.

    You are completely right: we HAVE to focus on one another’s arguments and intelligently deal with those arguments with arguments of our own.

    Thank you for having the principles to point that out. I sincerely appreciate it.

  133. Anonymous Says:

    Michael Eden & Jaron Resnik,

    2013……just paid $4.55/gal
    Please get your head out of the sand. Are you getting a special deal at the pump for being an Obama supporter?

    You can’t blam Bush now.

  134. Michael Eden Says:

    You can’t blam Bush now.

    Anonymous,

    I wish you were correct. But you fail to understand the sheer blatant evil stupidity of the left. They will blame Bush a thousand years from now. Obama is Big Brother and Bush is Emmanuel Goldstein.

    To be a liberal is to be a hypocrite demagogue. All they have is slander and lies and excuses for why their policies fail time and time again.

  135. Melissa Says:

    “You are a documented liar. When Bush took office gas prices were $1.40 a gallon. When he left office gas prices on January 20, 2009 were $1.84 a gallon. You liar.

    :What I said to your dumbass friend Chris applies equally to you.”…………

    This was where I just shook my head and stopped trying to make sense of what you’ve been claiming with such vehemence. I lost count how many times you’ve called Liberals or Democrats “dumbasses….stupid….liars….hypocrites….turds”…..(sigh) I find it offensive that someone would state their love for God and in virtually the same breath swear at and insult the name and character of anyone that might be in opposition to delusional Republican policies and practices. You cannot cherry-pick a fact and state it out of context and declare it’s “proof” that Obama-bad….Bush-good……There are problems on both sides of today’s political ideologies, but to fix where we are now, you have to look back to its roots and origins.

    Are you aware of oil speculators in the stock market and how THEY are the reason that oil prices are out of control? (Look up the Koch Brothers, and their manipulations of oil futures and their lobbying against every thing our Democratic president has tried to enact to stabilize our economy). Gas was $1.82 (or a tad less, depending on your location) the day Obama took office and you want to claim that this price was representative of what a good job Bush was doing? You remember how millions lost their jobs in the last half of that year? How the economy went into a slide the more the Bush Administration bolstered big business and turned its back on the working class? Tax cuts for the rich? You think that might have helped eradicate the budget SURPLUS that was in place when Clinton left office? We are trillions in debt….when did that slide begin?

    You’ve done your part to villify Obama….and that’s fair I guess, seeing as how there have been even greater numbers that curse the day W. Bush was born….but how do you justify your implications against the Democratic leadership today, 7/19/13, when unemployment is down, the stock market is trading at record highs, the economy has improved drastically, and Obama’s healthcare plan has been PROVEN (in states that have already begun to implement it) to be as cost effective as he stated it would be. Private insurance premiums are becoming more affordable so that every citizen will have the ability to get healthcare….and if you know anything about the Bible and God’s commandment to us all (Matt. 22: 37-39) you know that taking care of our fellow man is commanded of us by God……

    If you proclaim yourself to be a moral, upright Christian, then it is my obligation to call you out on the hate and division you spew forth. I am neither stupid, nor immoral, nor a dumbass turd. I believe you are better than the sum of your words, and I can only HOPE that you will examine what you have put forth as FACT here and come to a more full understanding of what has gone on. Remember, a lie by omission, or misdirection, is as abominable unto God as to take the life of an innocent. Sin has no degree in his eyes….. I hope you find the more peaceful and thoughtful side of your nature and move away from the anger.

    In Christian Love,

    Melissa K.

  136. Michael Eden Says:

    Melissa,

    If YOU proclaim yourself to be ANY KIND OF A CHRISTIAN AT ALL, then it is my obligation to call you out on the fact that you are a murder more than 55 million times over.

    What does the Bible that ACTUAL CHRISTIANS believe is the holy Word of God say?

    “For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb. I will give thanks to You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; Wonderful are Your works, And my soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from You, When I was made in secret, And skillfully wrought in the depths of the earth; Your eyes have seen my unformed substance; And in Your book were all written The days that were ordained for me, When as yet there was not one of them.” — Psalm 139:13-16

    Not that you care what the Word of God says. But your precious abortion is murder. It’s human sacrifice to the liberal god of convenience.

    When Jesus was in His young, unmarried, teen-aged mother’s womb, every liberal collectively aborted Him. He never lived to die for your sins. Because you murdered Him in the womb along with 55 million other innocent children.

    And when you’re not supporting the murder of baby after baby after baby, you are demanding that America embrace the wrath of God by committing itself to homosexual sodomy according to Romans chapter one.

    Sorry if I refuse to allow one such as you to lecture me. I have an admittedly unfortunate habit of being uncivil to those who are decidedly uncivil to me (such as yourself); you are a mass murderer and a lover of the homosexual sodomy that God repeatedly condemned as an abomination that marked the absolute lowest level an individual or a society could degenerate to.

    I also can’t help but mock you for your abject moral hypocrisy. You denounce me for my tone to liberals, but demonize me for “hate” and “division.” How was that not “hateful” and “divisive”???? I suppose it’s because when YOU do it, it’s a good thing. It’s only when I do the exact same thing that you just did that it’s a bad thing. You slandering hypocrite.

    Do you have any idea how much vicious hate I get from liberals every single day? I notice that you refused to call out your own kind. Because it’s only hate when a conservative does it. Here’s an example I received within about ten comments to this very article:

    You are such a moron. I cannot waste anymore of my time talking to someone who is lost in an alternate universe. I only hope that you get hit by a truck or die a horrible death. You are an enemy of America scumbag. THATS A FACT.

    It’s kind of strange. I wrote an article never ONCE hoping anybody got hit by a truck or died a horrible death. I never degenerated into that level of viciousness. And nobody else did either. Because that level of pure hate doesn’t happen UNTIL THE LIBERALS SHOW UP.

    Here’s the liberal game plan for those who haven’t learned it. Liberal A comes along and just viciously personally attacks the conservative. Often they show up in rabid packs and just dump hate on the Republican. And then, when the conservative responds with anger of his own, well, that’s when liberals like YOU show up. The sanctimonious, self-righteous ones who pointedly ignore the hate that their own side just dished out and instead personally denounce the “hate” of the conservative. That hateful, divisive conservative shouldn’t have responded angrily to all that liberal hate. It’s wrong. It’s evil, even. And that sanctimonious, self-righteous liberal often proceeds to then attack the Republican’s Christianity. Which is of course an even MORE hateful attack than the liberal haters that got the conservative to respond with anger, of course, but what does that matter?

    You follow Saul Alinsky’s strategy (Barack Obama taught it, too, you know). One of Alinsky’s favorite rules was to “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules” (the Bible). And the fact that Alinsky dedicated the book that taught this stuff to LUCIFER ought to tell you how willing HE was to live up to the Bible. But that’s what you’re here to do – play Alinsky’s strategy to make me live up to the Bible when your liberal friend screams for me to die horribly.

    I’ll tell you what, Melissa. I’ll throw myself onto the horn of your dilemma. I’ll acknowledge that, yes, I get angry at the hate I’ve experienced from the left. I get angry at the millions of human beings you people have murdered. I get angry at the fact that you’ve brought the wrath of God onto this nation. I get angry at all the people you’ve hurt through your stupid and immoral policies. And, yes, I take my anger too far at times. I’m a sinner and I confess my guilt.

    Now how about this: will YOU confess your sin as a mass murdering baby butcher for voting for those who wallowed in the wickedness of abortion? The Bible says that GOD formed babies’ inward parts. The Bible says that GOD wove that baby in his or her mother’s womb. The Bible says that that baby you murdered had been fearfully and wonderfully made. The Bible says that God saw our unformed substance, and assures us that babies have precious souls. Will you confess that you are a baby murderer 55 million times over??? Will you confess that as a liberal you stand under the full wrath of God (that’s Romans chapter one, just begin reading at verse 18 and keep going) for the abomination that your political party has made its platform???? Will you acknowledge your sin?

    I didn’t think so. It appears that your “Christianity” is not much more than the liberal denunciation of the ultimate sinner: the politically incorrect.

    When Jesus politely suggested that certain people ought to take the giant trees out of their own eyes before pointing out the sawdust in somebody else’s eye, He was talking about YOU, Melissa.

    I also denounce – yes, as dumbasses – people who say that if they don’t like my tone they get to ignore my facts. What is a better word than “dumbass” to describe someone who believes that if I’m rude in telling them “The bridge is out, idiot!” that they are right to plunge off that bridge to their fiery death??? Only dumbasses would say, “The bridge isn’t out because that fellow was rude” even though, yes, the damn bridge IS out, you idiot. People like you amaze me.

    I DOCUMENTED the fact of what gasoline cost the day that Obama took office. I DOCUMENTED exactly how much it increased under Bush and how much it has increased under Obama. And I DOCUMENTED that the price of gas – which was over $4 for a VERY SHORT TIME under Bush – has been well over that for a giant share of your turd messiah’s presidency. And all you have is nonsense about “speculators.”

    You are a hypocrite without shame, without honor and without decency. When Bush was president your ilk DEMONIZED him over gas prices:

    Now you’ve got the balls to try to assert that I don’t have any right to do THE SAME THING YOU DID??? I don’t have a right to hold the president responsible for gas prices THE SAME WAY YOU DID??? That’s a load of garbage. You dished it out, now you eat it.

    When gasoline briefly went up to over $4 a gallon under Bush, you hypocrite liberals denounced Bush as the worst president EVER. It is now AVERAGING over $4 on your messiah’s watch, and that is an obvious FACT. And you STILL come crawling back here to attack Bush????

    And, yes, gas prices are soaring RIGHT NOW. And Bush aint around for you turds to kick around. But you would never hold Obama accountable by the same damn standard you held Bush to – just like you would never hold the vile hating left accountable to the same standard that you demonize me by now. Hypocrite.

    You are immune to facts. You are immune to reality. It is an amazing thing to watch.

    You just cite lie after lie and think if you just keep asserting it, it’s “true.” As an example, you talk about “the budget SURPLUS that was in place when Clinton left office.”

    THERE WAS NEVER A BUDGET SURPLUS. THE FEDERAL DEFICIT INCREASED EVERY SINGLE YEAR OF BILL CLINTON’S PRESIDENCY. AS I HAVE DOCUMENTED.

    Your so called “budget surplus” never existed. It was merely a number some bureaucrat in the CBO projected. It never actually happened. It was a lie. Your head is full of lies. But that pointed out, here’s another thing that needs to be pointed out: Bill Clinton very famously said, “The era of big government IS OVER.” Which is to say that Bill Clinton had less of a damned budget deficit BECAUSE HE GOVERNED THE WAY REPUBLICANS SAID WE NEED TO GOVERN AND NOT AT ALL LIKE LIBTURDS LIKE OBAMA ARE GOVERNING NOW. And I suppose that I’m not nearly as much as a rabid ideologue as you, because frankly I don’t think this is about “A Republican did x and a Democrat did y” as much as it is about basic fiscal sanity – which Democrats EVEN ACCORDING TO BILL CLINTON – have utterly thrown out the window in the “The era of big government is back until we completely collapse” mindset.

    Other than the fact that you are a hypocrite without shame, and that you cite lies because lies are all you believe, I’m sure you’re a very sweet girl.

    P.S. As to your ObamaCare garbage, I just responded to a different turd. I’ll just link to that rather than waste another breath. But your lies are lies. In California, healthcare premiums thanks to ObamaCare are increasing 64 to 146 percent. Because of the “train wreck” also known as ObamaCare, the largest insurer in California is abandoning the exchange - which again proves the lie to Obama’s false promise “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan.” In Ohio, healthcare premiums thanks to ObamaCare will increase by 88%.

  137. Richard Hicks Says:

    your and dumb retard bush started the high gas prices when Obama entered office gas prices been went sky high remember right after Katrina they went up and down then up up up Obama came in the gas prices was done you stupid idiot what could he do. then you take bush 4 years and compare that’s not fair because before Katrina gas was 1.65 a gal everything was fine. don’t hide the fact that gas prices sky rocketed with punk ass George in office stop the black people bashing people wont admit that blacks do everything better when given the chance so efff you.

  138. Michael Eden Says:

    Richard Hicks,

    You ideologues are pathetic. You truly are. I DOCUMENTED that the average price of gasoline for George W. Bush was $2.14 a gallon over his eight year presidency. Just as I documented that when Bush left office, gas prices were $1.68 a gallon. And THAT was the price that Obama started with: $1.68 a gallon left behind from George W. Bush.

    You blame Bush for everything bad and it is simply beyond your honesty or integrity to give him credit for ANYTHING no matter how obvious it is. Just as you give Obama credit for EVERYTHING and cannot find the integrity to criticize him for ANYTHING no matter how obvious it is.

    I just did some quick calculations – they are likely to be a few cents LOW – but finished calculating what Obama’s 2012 average was (recall that in 2009 it was $2.14, in 2010 it was $2.52, in 2011 it was $3.57). That $3.57 average in 2011 was FIFTY-SIX CENTS HIGHER THAN BUSH EVER AVERAGED, btw. In 2012, Obama’s average price of gas was $3.59. And so far this year it is $3.65. And again, those numbers are likely to be a few cents LOW compared to what I would get if I painstakingly totaled up each quarterly number for the year.

    At this point in his presidency, Barack Obama has averaged $3.09 a gallon. Which by the way is HIGHER than his average price when I calculated it BASED ON OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT NUMBERS in September 2012. It has gotten WORSE and it WILL CONTINUE to get worse. Just as I predicted it would.

    Over eight years, George Bush averaged $2.14 a gallon. And you liberals bitched up a storm about it.

    Right now, Obama is averaging nearly a dollar a gallon higher – in actual point of fact 44.39 percent higher – than it was under Bush, and you still praise Obama and you still demonize Bush.

    All you demonstrate is that you have no honesty, no integrity and no honor whatsoever.

    As for your “Bush=retard” remark, I don’t recall: did George Bush say he’d been to 57 states??? Oh, wait, that was Obama. But it didn’t matter then; because the same media that in their warped bias covered up for Obama’s pathetic ignorance in the past are still doing it today (and for another giant example happening as we speak see also here). And since there are so MANY examples of the warped bias and dishonesty of the liberal Joseph Goebbels mainstream media see also here. And the reason that the media is so dishonest and so biased is because it has purged out any hint of fair or honest or objective journalistic tendencies and thinks the same warped way YOU do.

    People like you who hate the truth and prefer to swim in a sewer of lies just amaze me, Richard.

  139. Ben Says:

    Wow! So you just completely leave out the part where gas was less than $1.10 before Bush came into office. It did get higher after we went to Afghanistan, but that was a NEEDED action. Iraq was not needed, and that is when gas prices started getting really ridiculous, and have never actually recovered. (Feel free to start an Iraq War debate with me….an Iraq War veteran that was responsible for cleaning up the “WMDs” we found.)
    Bush and Obama are both AWFUL Presidents, that never deserved the job.
    You report is most definitely skewed and cherry picked.

    Keep the “Lib-tard” insults for someone else. I didn’t vote for Romney because he was too liberal. I judged my vote based off the candidates actions and not the lies that came out of their mouths, and Governor Romney was very liberal.

  140. Michael Eden Says:

    Wow! So you just completely leave out the part where gas was less than $1.10 before Bush came into office.

    Ben,

    You self-righteous, sanctimonious hypocrite without shame, without honor and without decency. You dishonest poster-boy for the abject hypocrisy of liberalism.

    I read through your screed. Do you want to know what I was looking for, hypocrite? I was looking for YOU to be “balanced” or “fair” or “objective” the way you were demanding that I had to be. I was looking for you to present the evidence – any evidence, even just one tiny little PIECE of evidence – of the “other side.” Because that was what you demanded that I do.

    And do you know what I found, hypocrite without shame? I found NOThING.

    “Debate you”??? I don’t waste my time “debating” people who at their cores make hypocritical demands that I do what they themselves pathologically refuse to do even as they attack me for not doing what they won’t do.

    As a conservative, I don’t feel it ought to be my job to be “Mister Impartial” and present a muddled argument that leads nowhere. I am taking a side an arguing for that side.

    You know, like YOU did, you dishonest hypocrite.

    And the only difference between you and me is that I don’t demonize people like you for presenting the evidence you want to feature that might support your conclusion. Because I’m not a hypocrite, like you are and like the soul of the left is.

    Having said that, you’re not only a liar on the issue of your personal abject hypocrisy, but you are a liar on your FACTS.

    In this very article in which you falsely say I “just completely leave out the part where gas was less than $1.10 before Bush came into office” I said this:

    George Bush began his presidency with gasoline prices at $1.40 a gallon. When they got over $4 a gallon in 2008, George W. Bush finally used a conservative solution to the problem – and oil prices IMMEDIATELY plunged that very day and then continued to go down. That is simply a documented fact. Such that when Bush left office and Obama began his presidency, the average national price of a gallon of unleaded gasoline was $1.85 a gallon. So if you look at the entirety of Bush’s presidency, gasoline went from $1.40 a gallon to $1.85 a gallon.

    Obama began his own presidency with gasoline prices at that $1.85 a gallon and they have gone up and up and up. And the difference between Obama and Bush is that Obama will NEVER take the type of conservative solution that Bush took and frankly that Bill Clinton took and allow the domestic drilling that America needs to get control of its gas prices. Obama has now repeatedly attempted to take credit for oil leases that were signed and granted by George W. Bush even as he himself has refused to sign such leases himself. To sum up Obama’s failure, I need only use one word: “Keystone.”

    So, yeah, you dishonest liar, I DID SO mention that part about the gas prices Clinton had (because he followed conservative principles), didn’t I??? YOU JUST LIED ABOUT IT LIKE THE SHAMELESS LIAR YOU ARE.

    And I prove that, once again, I am FAR more “balanced” than any of my opponents have ever been.

    So get some integrity. But until then, get lost.

    BTW, as for your “Keep the “Lib-tard” insults for someone else. I didn’t vote for Romney because he was too liberal” blathering, this isn’t the first time I’ve had a liar take an uberleftist position under the false guise that he’s a “conservative” and that therefore he must be heard.

    You liars just lie without any shame at all.

  141. Anonymous Says:

    Gas prices are still dropping!

    National Unleaded Prices
    Lowest US Price * $1.99
    SEMINOLE, OK…
    Average Price * $3.19
    Nationwide
    Highest US Price * $4.99
    ESSEX, CA

  142. Michael Eden Says:

    Anonymous,

    I for one am quite happy that the price of gas is going down.

    But here’s the thing, dude: I don’t know what your politics are, but if you are a liberal, REALIZE THAT THEY DROPPED AFTER THEY WERE HIGH WHILE BUSH WAS PRESIDENT TOO.

    Because somehow liberals refused to ever consider that. Under Bush, gas prices were FAR lower than they have been under Obama. Yes, there was a span of several months where the prices rose stratospherically. BUT THEN THEY CAME DOWN. And lo and behold when Obama took office gas prices were (if memory serves) just over 2 bucks a gallon.

    You’ve seen the appalling hypocrisy of liberals; they demonized Bush for a few months of high gas prices, but have steadfastly defended Obama for FIVE YEARS OF HIGH GAS PRICES. THE PRICE YOU QUOTE ($3.19/GAL) IS STILL WELL OVER A DOLLAR HIGHER THAN WHAT BUSH AVERAGED DURING HIS EIGHT YEARS IN OFFICE ($2.14/GAL).

    Now, maybe you’re a guy like me and you just posted because you’re so happy that gas is “only” $3.19 a gallon. But after the Bush years of $2.14 a gallon gas, you’ve been conditioned to be thrilled about something that is in reality quite awful.

  143. Anonymous Says:

    Take an economics course, understand world markets, and educate yourself. Our political system has many players, I am unhappy with many of Obama’s policies. I do not blame him or liberals for the price of gas. How simplistic and ignorant do you think we are? Blind hatred for others will not solve our countries problems. Education and working together might.

    “The bottom line is, there are these huge global forces that are the primary driver of the price of gasoline,” said Bledsoe, “and they are forces that the president under normal circumstances has very little control over.”

  144. Michael Eden Says:

    Anonymous,

    People like YOU make me just VOMIT. Notice you offer ABSOLUTELY NO CRITIQUE as to what is wrong with my understanding of world markets. Where do you refute me? Where do you refute my facts? NOWHERE. All you have to offer is your worthless opinions and an incredibly smarmy attitude. And I am willing to bet that I am far better educated than YOU are, you sanctimonious hypocrite.

    As to your being so enlightened and wise that you are incapable of blaming Obama or liberals for the price of gas, I have two things to say: #1 “The buck stops here” is a well-known phrase in American history – especially pertaining to the CHIEF EXECUTIVE OF THE NATION – and you ought to quit lecturing other people long enough to learn something yourself. #2 is the fact which I have documented ad nauseum of the liberals and Obama whom you don’t blame blaming Bush and Republicans all over the place. And I can personally promise the universe that the hypocrite who lectures me here never once lectured Obama, Democrats or any liberal about blaming Bush and conservatives for high gas prices. Because “Mr. Anonymous” is pathologically dishonest.

    Show me that you came off your holier than thou mountain long enough to criticize the left and I’ll give you the right to come off of it again to lecture me. Until then, please just get lost and quit wasting other people’s time.

  145. Drew Says:

    So as of January 8, 2014, gas prices are approximately $1.08 per gallon cheaper than they were at the original posting of this blog entry, with little change that I can see in Obama’s drilling stance. As far as I know, the number of leases handed out have not increased. We won’t even get into the fact that how much oil is brought out of the ground means nothing until it’s refined –there’s the bottleneck, the source of the price you pay at the pump — but what gives? How can this be?!?!?!?! Conservative partisan hacks. You’re all the same.

  146. Michael Eden Says:

    Drew,

    As usual, you as a liberal are a rank LIAR without shame, without honesty, without virtue and without decency of any kind.

    I checked your “facts.” It took me two seconds. When this article came out in February of 2012, the price of a gallon of regular gas was $3.59. Here is the documenting link from Consumer Reports. As of this last week, the average price of a gallon of regular gas is $3.32 a gallon. And here is the supporting link from AAA. Which according to my Imago Dei brain versus your randomly evolved brain is very considerably less than $1.08 a gallon cheaper. Unless 27 cents has inflated that much due to your messiah’s evil borrowing and destruction of the value of the dollar. And for the record, GAS PRICES ARE CURRENTLY GOING UP AGAIN. So you are twice the liar.

    Please don’t come to this blog and try to substitute lies for the truth and then try to make some kind of point based on your lies.

    I know the saying, “You’re entitled to your point of view, but you aren’t entitled to your own facts.” But liberals will ALWAYS believe that they are entitled to their own facts, no matter how big of a liar it makes them.

    Now get lost. I don’t waste my time discussing reality with those who are utterly ignorant of it.

  147. Cathy Says:

    All of you are idiots. The POTUS has no control over gas prices no matter who it is.

  148. Michael Eden Says:

    The POTUS has no control over gas prices no matter who it is.

    Cathy,

    Consider yourself blocked unless and until you produce for me a statement of YOU saying that back when Democrats were demonizing George W. Bush over gas prices. Because I have a very strong feeling that YOU were ONE of those people doing that. You hypocrite.

    Since I wrote this, along with one or two other similar articles, I’ve received ungodly amounts of comments from (of course ungodly) Democrats saying how wrong and how unfair it was to blame the president THE SAME EXACT WAY THAT THEY BLAMED BUSH.

    And I also disagree with your statement: the POTUS has a GREAT DEAL of control over gas prices. If he is a strong president he doesn’t leave the Middle East in meltdown as Obama has done (proof just today from the Los Angeles Times of all places). And he enacts policies that INCREASE the flow (KEYSTONE PIPELINE) and production of oil rather than as Obama has done at virtually every turn hinder them.

    From the LA Times:

    WASHINGTON — Five years after President Obama vowed to expand U.S. relations with the Arab world and the broader Middle East, his administration is under fire from allies worried that the United States is scaling back its historic role as a power broker and peacemaker despite growing turmoil across the region.

    With a bitter power struggle intensifying between Iran and Saudi Arabia and widening crises in Syria, Iraq, Libya and Egypt, Washington’s relative lack of influence and involvement has become a diplomatic problem and may be contributing to a growing threat from Islamic extremists, diplomats say.

    Senior officials in Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Israel all have complained about what they view as an American retrenchment after the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, with some leaders already beginning to chart policies more independent of Washington than in the past.

    Notice the words, “Despite growing turmoil across the region.” And I remember your messiah demonizing George Bush for that turmoil and promising that he as messiah would stretch out his hand and heal the world. Obama has a GREAT DEAL to do with the decline in the Middle East and the increasing instability where the price of oil is largely set. You want to blame BUSH for the fact that al Qaeda planted its flag in a city that we won at a high cost with Obama just pissing it away, do you??? You want to blame Bush for Obama’s issuance of a “red line” in Syria that he subsequently looked like a weak fool and Russian tool over, do you???

    The facts ALSO show that Obama has actually hurt oil production everywhere he could and in every way he could.

    So you’re wrong in your facts: Obama DOES have a lot to do with the increase in oil prices. But you’re also simply dishonest because you are the kind of person who held Bush to one standard only to now demand that Obama not be held to the same standard you held Bush to.

    So long, “idiot.”

  149. Anonymous Says:

    I am not an “Idiot” as you proclaim. You are just too much of a radical rightist. Why don’t people like you that are splitting this country politically have a little better understanding just what you are doing. It is ideology of the kind that is causing all of the trouble in Washington. I am not blaming any one party and I did vote for both Bushes. We need more moderate people in Washington. Nuff said!!!!

  150. Michael Eden Says:

    Anonymous,

    Aside from the fact that your idea of a “moderate” is probably significantly to the left of Karl Marx…

    Boy, you liberals are truly amazing in the sheer giant balls of your hypocrisy.

    You began your last comment, “All of you are idiots.” Which is to say, me, my momma, and everybody else who thinks like we do. And I ended mine referencing your kindness by referring to you – literally QUOTING you, noting that I put it in quotes – the same thing that YOU said.

    But now suddenly YOU’RE the victim.

    I’ve written about this many times before. It’s the rhetorical ju-jitsu that liberals love to use to somehow try to twist any exchange in such a way that they get to be the victim and their opponent is therefore mean. It doesn’t matter if you called me an idiot first. It doesn’t matter if I didn’t call you anything that you hadn’t already called me. Nope. All that matters is that in your twisted little feral mind, you “fundamentally transformed” yourself into “the victim.”

    “Nuff said.” And get lost.

  151. Anonymous Says:

    Buy electric!

  152. Michael Eden Says:

    Anonymous,

    A few things about that…

    1) It reminds me of the liberal argument against the death penalty: it’s SO expensive to put someone to death (because we MAKE it so damn expensive with an endless cycle of appeals such that it takes 25 years at LEAST to execute a murderer). So just let us win and do what we want you to do. Only in this case, you’ve got Obama making gas so expensive that liberals are telling us to buy the electric clown cars that liberals wanted us to buy all along.

    2) Half the nation burns coal to create their electricity. And by bankrupting coal Obama has sent the price of electricity through the roof, too.

    3) And this one is the craziest of all. As electric vehicles catch on, liberals – being fascists – can’t stand the gas taxes that these electric car owners aren’t paying. So the government is hitting these guys with extra fees and taxes. In other words, this so ergo sum this. Because Democrats are going to screw you one way or the other. That’s who they are and that’s what they do.

    There’s just no escape from liberal hell. Democrats are the kind of wicked people who want to punish people into doing the right thing. And then they want to punish people FOR doing the right thing. Because ultimately liberals aren’t about the right thing; they are about obtaining more government fascist control. So Democrats will punish people for NOT driving electric clown cars until it behooves them to punish people for doing the very damn thing they punished people into doing and punish people FOR driving electric clown cars.

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