There was that funny joke: what do you call a million lawyers rotting on the bottom of the ocean? A good start.
Millions of lawyers rotting in the bottom of their parents’ basements would be an even better joke – other than the fact that many of them took out federal school loans and will never pay them back. That takes some of the haw-haw factor out of this story.
Liberals OWN the law schools. The bar associations overwhelmingly lean to the left. That, on top of the fact that liberals dominate the university system in general, kind of makes the issue facing these law school graduates liberals’ fault, doesn’t it?
Given the fact that lawyers give over 90 percent of their political contributions to Democrats, what this pretty much is is institutional liberals lying to young liberals.
Only when liberals get screwed, they do what most other liberals do and sue.
One of the things that surprised me is that the legal profession apparently JUST discovered that there was something called “computers” or “the internet.” Most of us, of course, have been aware of this stuff for twenty years or so. So either lawyers seriously need to update their understanding of the actual world, or the excuse you see below is a version of Obama’s “the bad economy isn’t my fault; it’s everybody and everything else’s fault.”
Class action: Law school grads claim misleading reports of success
By Maura Dolan
April 2, 2013, 11:16 a.m.SAN FRANCISCO — Dozens of law graduates across the nation have joined class-action lawsuits alleging that law schools lured them in with misleading reports of their graduates’ success.
Instead of working in the law, some of the graduates were toiling at hourly jobs in department stores and restaurants and struggling to pay back more than $100,000 in loans used to finance their education. Others were in temporary or part-time legal positions.
Michael D. Lieberman decided to enroll at Southwestern Law School after reading that 97% of its graduates were employed within nine months. He graduated in 2009, passed the bar on his first try but could not find a job as a lawyer. He worked for a while as a software tester, then a technical writer, and now serves as a field representative for an elected official.
Lieberman, who earned his undergraduate degree at UC San Diego, believes his law degree may still be a “useful tool,” but he and other graduates said a suit they filed was intended to combat “systemic, ongoing fraud prevalent in the legal education industry” that could “leave a generation of law students in dire financial straits,” according to the complaint.
Nearly 20 lawsuits — five of them against California schools — are being litigated at a time of dim employment prospects for lawyers. Much of the work once done by lawyers can now be done more quickly by computers.
Online services have made law libraries largely unnecessary, allowing corporations to do more work in-house. Software has sped the hunt for information needed in discovery and other legal tasks, and Web-based companies offer litigants legal documents and help in filling them out. Even after the economy improves, some experts believe the supply of lawyers will outstrip jobs for years to come.
Although lawyer gluts come and go, “I don’t think any of them rival the situation we are seeing today,” said Joseph Dunn, chief executive of the State Bar of California, which regulates the state’s 230,000 attorneys. “The legal community in all 50 states is being dramatically impacted.”
New and inexperienced lawyers, unable to find jobs at law firms, are opening private practices, potentially putting clients at risk, according to a California bar report issued in February. To confront “serious issues of public protection,” a bar task force has recommended requiring practical experience as a condition of a license. The California Supreme Court would eventually have to approve the new rules.
Besides Southwestern, alumni have sued San Francisco’s Golden Gate University, the University of San Francisco and San Diego’s Thomas Jefferson and California Western schools of law. Each school charges about $40,000 a year in tuition.
But not everyone shares the dismal outlook. Erwin Chemerinsky, dean of UC Irvine Law School, said his students are finding full-time jobs as lawyers even during this slow economy. “It is not the same across all law schools when you look at employment prospects,” he said.
Rudy Hasl, dean of the Thomas Jefferson School of Law, said the retirement of baby boomers also would open up jobs.
Both deans said there was huge unmet demand for legal services for the poor and middle class, and the next generation of practitioners might be able to fill that demand. The state bar agrees.
“Across the country, the need for legal services among those who cannot pay or have limited ability to pay has never been higher,” the bar report said.
We’re starting to find out what liberals truly think about education, aren’t we? It’s called “How to exploit stupid people.” And Democrats are masters in that art.
I submit that “the law” has degenerated into a system whereby cowards get to harass, intimidate and destroy people with virtually no risk to themselves. Just as “higher education” has degenerated into a system whereby leftist professors get to harass, intimidate and bully students with propaganda in place of where the truth ought to be. The “legal services for the poor and middle class,” of course, include cars filled with people working for trial lawyers who cut off helpless drivers and then slam on the brakes so they can sue, and disabled people who work for attorneys by going to business after business hoping to find one that isn’t fully enough complying with the Americans with Disabilities Act so they can sue. It’s not a shame at all that these liberal cockroach predators upon society have overbred themselves. The problem is that after eating their own, the surviving lawyers will keep feeding on the rest of us.
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April 3, 2013 at 5:55 am
Off on a tangent… let me tell you about my Monday’s bike ride. “Corse bicycle riding is my hobby and it is how I keep my weight compensated from some of my bad habits. Nevermind that. Last summer I was in the habit of riding my bike from the river up to a trail head parking lot for about a 2000 ft or 1500 cal climb.
But on the way there I would always ride past the office building of the regional Forest Service headquarters. It is a big multi story building with parking for like maybe 600 cars or so. Managing the forest is big business I guess. If you ask me they got more administrators than the do rangers or whatever they actually have in the field or forest I should say.
But the real interesting feature is that whenever I go past that building there are always government employees out for a stroll. Apparently for their morning break they get to go for a walk. You know, probably to break up the tedium. I never had a job like that, where I could go for a morning walk. A couple of state agencies on my path, same thing. Heck, if they had placards you would think that there was a strike or something. ‘Course I ain’t necessarily a nice guy or anything. So I give ’em the finger more often than not.
Monday’s ride… the times they are a changing. I took the winter off from riding and went indoors spinning, so it has been maybe 4 months since I made my trip. But … There ain’t no “public servants” out walking around the buildings.
I think these guys, federal at least, are looking sequester in the eye and are more content to sit at their desks and pretend at attentiveness.
April 3, 2013 at 6:17 am
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April 3, 2013 at 6:37 am
Yet another tangent. Maybe less tangential than my last tangent since you mentioned student loans in your article.
Last summer I rode my bike out to get a coffee at Starbucks. ‘Course liberals suppose that since I am on a bicycle and at a Starbucks that I must be a liberal. I mean that is the profile after all.
So I ends up in a conversation with the enemy.
It is summertime. These guys are high ranking educators. One of them is a principle at a high school.
In the conversation, somehow irony abounded. We got to talking about student loans. These guys are all like lamenting the plight of their young colleagues who are saddled with crippling student debt.
I expressed a lack of sympathy and explained that I worked my way through college and graduated with zero student debt.
Educators don’t get that. Working at a gas station to get tuition money, well that is degrading. They didn’t say that but I certainly heard that from my “peers” when I was at the University.
One of them expressed that he thought higher education should be free like it is in Europe. I expressed that higher education should have an inherent meaning that a person has invested in himself both in terms of the advanced course work and the practical aspect of managing personal finance which should necessarily include an understanding of cost and value and the potential for a return on investment. Otherwise what we get is kids borrowing many tens of thousands for their study of “reproductive physiology.”
Tell me if I got the irony thing right…
The high school principle tells me that kids going into college aren’t smart enough to be committing themselves to the huge student debt. They are too ignorant or inexperienced to be saddled with such a responsibility.
‘Course the previous paragraph is an awkward paraphrase of a conversation of a summer ago but the gist of it was a high school principle was telling me that his students were too stupid to be getting student loans and to be understanding the the consequence or significance.
He ended up telling me that he believed that guys going into “public service” should have their student debt forgiven or erased.
So you know, all of those guys who don’t have to save for retirement, who don’t have to pay the same taxes, namely Social Security, … well they shouldn’t have to pay their bills or debts like the rest of us.
And well, public service, that is becoming the domain of Democrats pretty much exclusively. In my mind I can justify extrapolating this. That high school principle was arguing that Democrats shouldn’t have to pay their student loans.
I did not end the conversation politely. I told him “fuck you.”
April 3, 2013 at 3:38 pm
Exactly! Liberal, Progressive, Socialist dEmoKrats think EVERYTHING should be FREE and IF NOT FREE at least someone else should pay for it(DUHUH)!
Scum Sucking, California Nematodes!
April 4, 2013 at 5:22 pm
“The “legal services for the poor and middle class,” of course, include cars filled with people working for trial lawyers who cut off helpless drivers and then slam on the brakes so they can sue, and disabled people who work for attorneys by going to business after business hoping to find one that isn’t fully enough complying with the Americans with Disabilities Act so they can sue. It’s not a shame at all that these liberal cockroach predators upon society have overbred themselves. The problem is that after eating their own, the surviving lawyers will keep feeding on the rest of us.”
My immediate thought when I read this: I seriously hope this man does not have children. The amount of hate in your heart for people who disagree with you is shocking. If negative thinking is thinking right, I’m sure glad to be thinking wrong. I have no desire to read any of your other hateful posts, but I truly hope you’re not claiming to be a Christian as I see you have a bible verse at the top of your page. I’m pretty sure Jesus Christ never referred to people with different views than his as “cockroach predators upon society.”
I hope that you meet someone, somewhere who makes you consider life from another person’s shoes…and that you will eventually see why it is wrong to generalize people into one huge category of evil based on the fact that they disagree with your political ideology. Until then, I’ll be studying for my law degree, so that I can get a job (because even though the market is tough there are still jobs out there for those who work hard and network). Before you know it I’ll be Ms. Liberal Cockroach Predator, Esq. Just hope you never rear-end my client ;)
April 5, 2013 at 10:12 am
lifeandlawschool,
How does one confront evil without naming names and calling behaviors out? I ask you as someone who just got through attacking me as being hateful while being WAY over the top hateful yourself – as I will show.
I could respond that my immediate thought when I read this was: I seriously hope this woman does not have children. The amount of hate in your heart for people who disagree with you is shocking.
Why is it that you liberals feel so “entitled” – I think that’s a very good word to describe you – to viciously slander me personally, demonize me in my religious beliefs, all the while feeling outraged over my attitude toward people. I mean, how do I hate the people any less than you hate me? How do I hate the people I disagree with any more than you hate me? I mean, if it’s so wrong for me to have my attitudes, then why do you have so much hatred for ME??? Why do you literally demonize me and then so immediately do the very same thing to me that you demonized me for doing? How does one become such a sanctimonious hypocrite as you have become? How does your head not explode containing all the damn contradictions?
I just pointed out that you viciously attacked me as one of the most hateful people in the world, and that you viciously slandered me in my religion. Is that okay? But you took your hate to a whole new level of darkness: you actually attacked my fitness as a parent. How the hell was what you did not anything other than hateful beyond belief??? Let me here state that I have now written over 2,500 articles – and that I have NEVER ONCE EVER went after Barack Obama or Michelle Obama as parents. NEVER ONCE have I went to that level of personal hate that you just degenerated into. So for all the hate you claim I have for Obama as the liberal par excellence, you just hated me more in one short paragraph than I hated Obama in all my articles COMBINED.
Your hatred and intolerance are breathtaking. As is your unbelievable hypocrisy and self-righteousness, that you could hate me so deeply at all the deepest levels of my being WHILE LECTURING ME ABOUT HATE.
Are you capable of any human capacity for personal self introspection? Or does abject hypocrisy define you to the core of whatever your being is? It very much seems to me to be the latter, “Ms. Liberal Cockroach Predator, Esq.” If the shoe fits, put it on your foot and walk around on it.
I block people whose sole “contribution” is a personal attack against me. And that’s why I’m blocking YOU, you hater. I believe that, for ALL the hateful responses I have EVER received, you entered into the darkest level of hate. And all you brought to the table was hate for me personally, rather than responding to the substance I was writing about.
Two more things: number one, in the passage you cherry picked from me, I described some of the worst predators who use the law to exploit people.
Even the DMV is aware of and describes the “staged car accidents” I described. What I described is a FACT. And it is very radically apparent that the true haters like YOU encourage this vile predatory behavior. You clearly have no indignation for the people who participate in staged accidents; only for people like me who are outraged by this predatory behavior.
And, yes, lawyers just like what you want to become are often in on these scams:
Here’s another case of a lawyer convicted of the sort of behavior I described.
Here’s another invovling an entire corrupt law firm.
And another.
And another.
And you have NO outrage for this??? Not even a little? You only hate on me? Yet that’s exactly what you did. It’s amazing. People like you are amazing. And here you are studying to be a “lawyer.” I can just see you in a courtroom going after the district attorney’s fitness as a parent rather than trying to form any sort of argument for your client. Especially if your client is a child molester. Because that’s exactly what you just did to me.
I could say this in response to your self-righteous condemnation of me: “I hope that you meet someone, somewhere who makes you consider life from another person’s shoes.” I could respond, “I hope you are a victim of these predators who pull in front of you with a car full of passengers who are in on the scam and cause a crash. I could say I hope you are seriously injured in that crash. I could say I hope that while you’re in the damn hospital recovering from the serious injuries these – yes, I’ll say it again: cockroaches – caused you, you get hit with a massive lawsuit as their lawyer (who is in on the scam) goes after you and sues you for all the bogus medical bills that their doctor – who is also in on the scam – billed for. I could say I hope you lose everything as these people whom you found NOTHING wrong with in your denunciation of me successfully sue you for everything and your entire life is destroyed by them. And, yeah, I could say that I hope that – finally being in the shoes of the people whose outrage I expressed – you considered life from another poor bastard’s shoes.”
But you know what, I’m NOT going to say that, because I don’t have anywhere NEAR the hatred in my heart for you that you clearly have for me. I don’t want you to experience pain the way you want me to experience pain.
Just like I’m not going to viciously demonize you as regards to your fitness as a parent. Although I don’t doubt for a nanosecond that you would exploit the law and your obvious hatred of conservatives to take my kids away from me.
You studying for your law degree is itself a frightening thing. Because given the fact that you literally condemned me for being outraged by these kinds of vile scams that abuse the system and parasitically live off of suing innocent people, I know EXACTLY what kind of bogus scam lawyer you are destined to become.
You literally threatened to set me up for the kind of scam I accurately described: “Just hope you never rear-end my client.” I hope I never do either, you hack. Because you offered us a glimpse into your soul that is dark, indeed.
For the record, I also correctly and accurately described in my rant that set off your hate when I described the cockroach lawyers who parasitically attack businesses under the ADA. Here’s a turd lawyer who filed more than a thousand lawsits going after businesses for often niggling failures to spend fortunes to make their property ADA compliant. Here’s a turd lawyer who got disbarred for taking advantage of the clients he exploited to sue businesses.
But that abuse of the system is fine with you, too. The only thing your lawyer heart can hate is me.
Number two, you say, “I’m pretty sure Jesus Christ never referred to people with different views than his as “cockroach predators upon society.” And, budding lawyer that you are, you are technically correct. But do you know what Jesus DID call people? You clearly don’t, because you are as ignorant about the Bible as you are about everything else in life. Jesus said:
Now, given that a “snake” is pretty much PRECISELY what you are striving to become as a shady lawyer who is only capable of “moral outrage” when somebody condemns lawyer scams, I don’t doubt that you find a giant gulf between calling somebody a “snake” and calling them a “cockrach.” But I don’t, because they are BOTH incredibly vile.
So, you’re a lot more wrong than you are right. Jesus didn’t say my exact words; He just said something that pretty much expressed the exact same point. And if you had ever bothered to read the Old Testament, you would see that the prophets called evil and those who practiced evil exactly what they deserved to be called.
Let me continue, since you mentioned the Bible. How do you as a liberal feel about the sin of homosexuality? Of abortion? Since you cited the Bible as an authority, do you actually BELIEVE the Bible, or were you merely employing the tactics of Saul Alinsky – “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules”? Do you agree with Psalm 139 that abortion is murder and liberals will surely burn in hell for the destruction of 56 million innocent human beings?
Do you agree with the Bible you mentioned that homosexuality is an abomination, as Levititus 18:22 and 20:13 point out? Do you agree with Romans chapter one that homosexuality is the lowest point a culture can sink into before it is damned by God?
I very much doubt it. Which is to say that you use the Bible not as the Word of God and any real authority, but as merely one more weapon to distort so you can attack your Christian enemies. You seek to dishonestly and cynically exploit the Bible to silence and deligitimize those who believe it. And I’m not going to be corrected by someone with an ungodly agenda who seeks to cherry pick the Bible to attack me on one front even as you work to undermine the Bible that Jesus said He came to fulfill every single iota of Word of God on every other front under the sun. When you exploit the Bible to undermine the Bible, you are as guilty as Satan was when HE did it. And since you are exploiting the tactics that Saul Alinsky taught, let me also add that Saul Alinsky devoted his book “Rules for Radicals” in which he taught his tricks to sell his leftist lies to Satan.
Now you get lost, you hater. And the next time you want to get all self-righteous and sanctimonious on somebody, at least have the courage and decency to deal with their arguments and their facts. When I revile scam artists who set up accidents to prey on innocent victims, maybe you can “explain” why the people who set up accidents and then sue innocent people are the good people and the guys just trying to get to their jobs are the bad people. Maybe when you try to use the Bible you might even use it in a legitimate manner rather than trying to distort it the way you distort everything else.
April 5, 2013 at 11:09 am
Mr Eden,
Ms. lifeandlawschool probably didn’t check that little box that says “notify me of follow up comments,” so I don’t have to consider an ongoing dialog with a would be lawyer.
Heh, so I don’t know, I see you using the word cockroach which we gotta admit is a bit derogatory. ‘Course in my mind it is a euphemism for something, in our minds anyway, a bit more derogatory. You say cockroach, I hear [deleted by moderator due to profanity]. Oops, can’t say that to an ostensibly Christian audience.
All right, I will never get away with elaborating on that topic. So did I tell you that when I was going to the University that my “peers” considered it to be unsavory or degrading to work in a gas station for tuition and survival expenses during college?
Here is a twist. ‘Course when I was at the University I wasn’t as Pollyanna as I am now. I used to go to the local watering hole like the rest of the water buffaloes. But what I found there was this confirmation of the notion that not only lawyers but law school students would do anything for money.
At the watering hole, word got around about who would do what for what amount of money. Law students, these are the guys that derided working in a gas station as being beneath anyone’s dignity, well, they would do the nasty, any kind of nasty, for money. Then they would take pride in it as though they had accomplished something because they had thrown off the shackles of an outdated and oppressive morality.
They would… will do anything for money. They are lawyers. I could walk into a law office tomorrow with a high capacity magazine and kill seven or eight “[deleted by moderator for profanity.” Then go to the law office next door and find a lawyer that would do anything or say anything on my behalf… for money.
You say cockroaches… heh!
April 5, 2013 at 1:41 pm
Dog Walker,
Well, the primary difference between my bad word and your bad word is that I could go to a kindergarten class and say my word (although it might be wiser not to teach children to apply it to people), whereas you’d find yourself registerting as a sex offender if you went to the same class and said your word.
And yeah, I AM writing for a Christian audience. Maybe a pissed off to no end audience of Christians, but a Christian audience nontheless.
So, yeah, don’t use the word you hear out loud. Feel free to think it, just don’t say it.
But, yeah, that said, “cockroach” is a harsh word to apply.
Now, I used to cook that word into most of my posts: add incredibly vile event, add Democrats responsible for said incredibly vile event, add word “cockroach” to describe these Democrats, cook at 425 F for half an hour, serve and enjoy.
I AM trying to censor myself now; but there are people such as dishonest hypocrite journalists and dishonest hypocrite lawyers – let’s call them the elite super roaches of the Democrat Party – and there is only one insect to compare them to.
There ARE a few good lawyers out there who fight the good fight. But “lawyer” is the most distrusted and despised profession in America for damn good reason.
Your example of walking into a law office determined to kill all the lawyers and then having a lawyer defend you (just as long as you keep writing the checks!) is a good example. They love to talk in terms of ethics, but most lawyers could just as easily argue on either side and would pretty much spout out either side’s argument if that’s what paid the bills. And, yes, most of the people who perform the sex act you described are in fact considerably more honest and ethical than most lawyers – as well as more fun to be around.
Apparently, to Ms. Hoity Toity, the only thing more depraved than a lawyer is somebody who calls out the most depraved lawyers of all as the scum they are.
April 7, 2013 at 8:02 pm
“I hope that you meet someone, somewhere who makes you consider life from another person’s shoes…and that you will eventually see why it is wrong to generalize people into one huge category of evil based on the fact that they disagree with your political ideology. Until then, I’ll be studying for my law degree, so that I can get a job (because even though the market is tough there are still jobs out there for those who work hard and network). Before you know it I’ll be Ms. Liberal Cockroach Predator, Esq. Just hope you never rear-end my client ;)
”
Ms. Liberal Cockroach Predator,
There is only one view point or ideology that really counts and that is God’s. Everything else is either a lie or an illusion. God, in his written word, basically generalizes mankind into one huge category of evil, that man is inherently sinful to the core in his heart. We are all fallen, depraved creatures. There is no moral relativism. I hope you consider life from Jesus’s shoes.
April 8, 2013 at 2:36 pm
FMC,
Thanks for adding your view. I can’t tell you how much it means to me to have people like yourself and Dog Walker who “have my back.”
You also saw the bait-and-switch implicit in “Ms. Liberal Cockroach Predator, Esq’s’ “argument.”
She is one who salad picks what she wants from the Bible to sell her point of view – even though she despises that very Bible – and then throws the Word of God and all the morality it stands for out the window into the dumpster when she’s finished “arguing” and actually gets her way in policy and politics.
Rick Warren’s son tragically committed suicide after a lifelong struggle with mental illness. That reminded me of Rick Warren’s forum debate between Obama and McCain. Obama used it to deceitfully and dishonestly claim that he held a Christian world view that we know know that he clearly NEVER held. He lied – and exploited Rick Warren’s forum to pimp those lies.
It’s the same with this roach would-be-attorney; she says, “Let me tell you what Jesus really stood for.” And not only does she not have the first clue what Jesus said or stood for, but she couldn’t care LESS that she doesn’t. Rather, Jesus is a convenient thing for the left to dishonestly do their “me, too!” on. They will dishonestly claim Jesus until the moment comes for them to crucify Him and all those who worship Him all over again. Just as the hateful world has already done so many times in the past as history repeats itself due to stupid moral idiots over and over again.