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Polls Most Damning Of Obama Now Were Most Accurate In 2008

I was watching CNN and they kept referring to a CNN poll that had Obama’s approval at 53%.  And one of the panelists was arguing, Obama is in good shape; he’s only lost one point from the election.”

Well, that didn’t sound quite – well, sane – to me.  I’ve been seeing polls from Rasmussen and Zogby that have Obama as low as 42%.  So it occurred to me to ask the question, which poll is reflecting reality?  And then it occurred to me to examine the recent past in order to understand who was best representing reality now.

Fordham University political scientist Costas Panagopoulos says Rasmussen and Pew were tied for #1.  They were spot-on in predicting the outcome and margin of the 2008 presidential campaign:

1T. Rasmussen (11/1-3)**
1T. Pew (10/29-11/1)**
3. YouGov/Polimetrix (10/18-11/1)
4. Harris Interactive (10/20-27)
5. GWU (Lake/Tarrance) (11/2-3)*

6T. Diageo/Hotline (10/31-11/2)*
6T. ARG (10/25-27)*
8T. CNN (10/30-11/1)
8T. Ipsos/McClatchy (10/30-11/1)
10. DailyKos.com (D)/Research 2000 (11/1-3)

11. AP/Yahoo/KN (10/17-27)
12. Democracy Corps (D) (10/30-11/2)
13. FOX (11/1-2)
14. Economist/YouGov (10/25-27)
15. IBD/TIPP (11/1-3)

16. NBC/WSJ (11/1-2)
17. ABC/Post (10/30-11/2)
18. Marist College (11/3)
19. CBS (10/31-11/2)
20. Gallup (10/31-11/2)

21. Reuters/ C-SPAN/ Zogby (10/31-11/3)
22. CBS/Times (10/25-29)
23. Newsweek (10/22-23)

I couldn’t find recent results for Pew regarding presidential approval, but faith and begorrah, Rasmussen is out there for our review:

Wednesday, September 02, 2009

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 28% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -12 (see trends). Republicans have opened their largest lead yet over Democrats on the Generic Congressional Ballot. […]

Overall, 46% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance. Fifty-three percent (53%) now disapprove.

So the number one pollster gives Obama only 46% approval – a far shot from 53%.

This seven point difference between polls is huge because it crosses the middle and brings Obama from still very positive to entering very negative.  At 46%, Obama can no longer claim to have the nation behind him.  On top of that, the people who are coming to genuinely despise him now outnumber the people who truly adore him by a whopping 12 points.

It also tells us that Obama has basically lost a whopping 1/6th of the voters who put him in office.  That doesn’t say much about how people view Obama’s governance.

When you see a CBS poll (which claims Obama’s approval has dipped only slightly at 56%), just realize that they are at the very bottom sucking the scum with the catfish in terms of their credibility.  They dramatically overstated Obama’s popularity during the presidential election; why on earth should you trust them now?

We’re still being told how popular and how wonderful President Obama is by the mainline media.  What we’re NOT being told is that his is the 3rd fastest drop to 50% since scientific polls were taken.  Bill Clinton was the fastest; and his party suffered the most massive defeat in history two years after his election.  He then managed to regain his popularity largely by cooperating with the Republican agenda that proceeded to dominate the rest of his administration.

Zogby has Obama all the way down to 42%, which they primarily attributed to his own Democratic base leaving him.

Don’t let the media fool you into thinking that Barack Obama is the popular president whose views are shared by most Americans.  He’s just not.  He started out nearly as popular as Jimmy Carter when he first took office; and Jimmy Carter seems to be the model this presidency will follow as he leads the country into ruin.

Obama has lost more than 20 points by most polls, and largely squandered his initial popularity and approval by ramming one massive spending initiative and socialist project after another through a liberal Congress that isn’t even bothering to read their bills.  He started with a +30 approval index rating; he has now lost an incredible 42 points at his present -12.

From the moment Barack Obama took over this country, he has advanced one radical agenda after another, one shockingly expensive plan after another.  And a massive movement is beginning.  It is being driven by the same independents who turned against Bush the last two election cycles; they are now turning against Obama in droves.

66% of independents are now opposed to Obama.

Barack Obama does not represent America, or the will of the people.  Rather, he represents the radical leftist fringe of the country.

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6 Responses to “Polls Most Damning Of Obama Now Were Most Accurate In 2008”

  1. hl Says:
    September 4, 2009 at 11:01 am

    Thanks for doing the research on this Michael. Very interesting and helpful info. I follow Rasmussen as I had heard they were the most accurate, but it is helpful to compare the various ones.

  2. Michael Eden Says:
    September 5, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    You’ve got a great point, HL. We shouldn’t just put all our marbles in polls at all – let alone just ONE poll. It’s good to expose yourself to what’s out there, and evaluate the polls based on their performance predicting reality.

    But what is funny right now is that Democrats find themselves in the position that Republicans have been in the last 4 years. It used to be Republicans who were saying, “Oh, the polls don’t reflect reality;” or “We’re not making policy based on polls;” etc, etc. Now it’s DEMOCRATS doing that. And they’re going to pay for it.

  3. bruce stravinsky Says:
    November 24, 2009 at 9:33 am

    All you need do is think of the diffrence between ‘likely voters’ (which is the one elections turn on) and ‘adults’ (which is basically any retard who has a landline and answers the phone when it rings during 6-9pm).

    Which one would YOU rather put your faith in on Nov 2010? ‘Adults’ or ‘Likely Voters’? I know what I think.

  4. Michael Eden Says:
    November 24, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    Gallup played all kinds of statistical tricks (for example, increasing the sample of African-Americans) in order to avoid the “below 50%” poll – and they STILL couldn’t do it.

    Rasmussen was most accurate precisely because of what Bruce points out: it takes it’s measurement not from “adults” or even “registered voters,” but LIKELY voters.

    And likely voters are INCREASINGLY LIKELY to vote Democrats out of office in droves next year.

    Only 38% of likely voters support ObamaCare, yet Democrats are rushing to impose it on the country.

    Do we REALLY want to have a party that is literally suicidal controlling our health care system???

  5. Van J. Says:
    March 30, 2012 at 7:17 am

    Wow! What an eye opener. Thank you so much for an incredibly enlightening view of how pollsters are trying to force their views on America, instead of reporting actual circumstances. Why can’t the media just do it’s job, and leave decision making to the people, to whom the gov’t belongs?

  6. Michael Eden Says:
    March 30, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    Van J.,

    An honest media would DO it’s job, inform the people of the basic facts, and allow them to make their own decisions.

    But the media is dishonest.

    Power corrupts. And the mainstream media had absolute power to tell us what the facts were while making sure we didn’t know facts they didn’t want us to know about and shape their narratives in a way that guaranteed the conclusions they wanted us to arrive at.

    I once put it in these words:

    It’s really kind of funny. There was a time when people would have heard the words, “Pravda reports…” and yawned at the expectation of hearing more propaganda. Now we hear, “ABC reports…” and yawn at the same expectation. We’re to a point where fewer and fewer and fewer Americans believe what they are being fed.

    I recall a quote from a Soviet correspondent who had spent five years in America witnessing its “journalism”:

    ” I have the greatest admiration for your propaganda. Propaganda in the West is carried out by experts who have had the best training in the world — in the field of advertizing — and have mastered the techniques with exceptional proficiency … Yours are subtle and persuasive; ours are crude and obvious … I think that the fundamental difference between our worlds, with respect to propaganda, is quite simple. You tend to believe yours … and we tend to disbelieve ours. “

    Given the fact that both Pew and Gallup have both recorded separately record highs in the American peoples’ distrust of their media, it seems that Americans have finally awakened to the fact that their journalism was propaganda the same way the Russians did long ago.

    So at least we finally opened our eyes at least a little bit, I suppose.

    The Russian journalist was right, of course. Modern American journalism was shaped by the likes of Walter Lippmann and by the likes of Edward Bernays. These are giant names in liberal progressive “journalism.” They were also masters of blending “the news” and “journalism” with outright propaganda. Lippmann described his version of democracy and journalism as “the manufacture of consent.” He said, “The public must be put in its place so that we may live free of the trampling and the roar of a bewildered herd. And Lippmann wanted to deny the “herd” the responsibility of being free to choose their own course and relegate them to the role of observer. And he deeply believed in an elite class of journalists that he called “the responsible man” who alone had “the duty” of participation. Similarly, Edward Bernays said “The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society… It is the intelligent minorities which need to make use of propaganda continuously and systematically.” Bernays’ daughter Ann said that her father’s greatest recognition was “That you can tap into their deepest desires or deepest fears and use that to your own purposes.”

    We are so deep in that crap it is positively unreal.

    Journalists see their role as “gatekeepers of information.” And that becomes a terrible thing when 97% of all journalists in America believe in unrestricted access to abortion – while the public is evenly split on the issue – and a 9-1 tilt of journalists toward the political left representing a hardened ideological committment to leftist thought by our “gatekeepers.”

    The bottom line is that our “journalism” represents a form of fascism that was not imposed by a totalitarian regime, but which was even more reprehensibly welcomed and embraced by a class of elites who constantly claim to be champions of the very poor whose opinions they simultaneously most despise and actively manipulate.

    We look for objectivity, but it is nowhere to be found. “Journalists” today are overwhelmingly people who want to shape the outcome in a decidedly leftist and statist way.

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